Surface Ruess

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Re: Surface Ruess

Post by Bri7 » Fri Aug 14, 2015 9:16 pm

connyro wrote:
Bri7 wrote: my newest project for this winter (telemark cowboy boots with carbon fiber spring intergrated to the sole)

Whatwhatwhat? This had better not be a cruel joke. That is a fantastic idea!


Of course it's not a joke. I have been thinking about this for a while.

Johnny had the idea of screwing two flip flops on a pair of ski for some spring skiing. I though this idea was good but i'm way too heavy for that kind of setup.

Cowboy boots however are way more durable (and cute) than sandals. The thin sole makes them a little bit too flexible to ride them without a spring. Since Johnny doesn't like when I wear springs on my 3 pins, i though about a new concept for xcd boots. Why don't insert a spring in the sole?

Carbon fiber has really good mechanical properties so i figured out a way to insert a thin sheet of carbon on top and on the bottom of the sole sewed with an aramid (kelvar) stringer.

Everything is on the corner of my desk at job. All i need is some is a kick in the ass to do it (or maybe forcasted snow will help)

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Re: Surface Ruess

Post by Dirtbag » Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:07 am

For sure this is an "out west ski" if it ever snows here again. :cry:



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Re: Surface Ruess

Post by lowangle al » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:12 am

Dirtbag wrote:For sure this is an "out west ski" if it ever snows here again. :cry:
I think a ski like that is good in any crappry snow other than hard snow. They would make crusty windblown sun effected refrozen shallow based East coast or any lower lattitude low elevation snow more skiable. So you could be making fun safe turns instead of survival skiing. That width is more than you would normally need and about 10 to 15mm more narrow would be more versitile. I would go as short as possible if I were going to go that wide.



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Re: Surface Ruess

Post by connyro » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:35 pm

Bri7 wrote:
connyro wrote:
Bri7 wrote: my newest project for this winter (telemark cowboy boots with carbon fiber spring intergrated to the sole)

Whatwhatwhat? This had better not be a cruel joke. That is a fantastic idea!


Of course it's not a joke. I have been thinking about this for a while.

Johnny had the idea of screwing two flip flops on a pair of ski for some spring skiing. I though this idea was good but i'm way too heavy for that kind of setup.

Cowboy boots however are way more durable (and cute) than sandals. The thin sole makes them a little bit too flexible to ride them without a spring. Since Johnny doesn't like when I wear springs on my 3 pins, i though about a new concept for xcd boots. Why don't insert a spring in the sole?

Carbon fiber has really good mechanical properties so i figured out a way to insert a thin sheet of carbon on top and on the bottom of the sole sewed with an aramid (kelvar) stringer.

Everything is on the corner of my desk at job. All i need is some is a kick in the ass to do it (or maybe forcasted snow will help)
I am predicting snow sometime in the next several months. Is that enough of a forecast to get you in gear?

Do you plan to keep the tall cowboy boot heels or will that be adapted for a climbing bale or something? I would be concerned with toe crunch in cowboy boots if your have a low style of tele turning...

So do you envision the final version to look like normal cowboy boots or will they look more like a ski boot? You might not have to change out of them for apres ski...



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Re: Surface Ruess

Post by connyro » Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:01 pm

Of course it's not a joke. I have been thinking about this for a while.

Johnny had the idea of screwing two flip flops on a pair of ski for some spring skiing. I though this idea was good but i'm way too heavy for that kind of setup.

Cowboy boots however are way more durable (and cute) than sandals. The thin sole makes them a little bit too flexible to ride them without a spring. Since Johnny doesn't like when I wear springs on my 3 pins, i though about a new concept for xcd boots. Why don't insert a spring in the sole?

Carbon fiber has really good mechanical properties so i figured out a way to insert a thin sheet of carbon on top and on the bottom of the sole sewed with an aramid (kelvar) stringer.

Everything is on the corner of my desk at job. All i need is some is a kick in the ass to do it (or maybe forcasted snow will help)
I am predicting snow sometime in the next several months. Is that enough of a forecast to get you in gear?

Do you plan to keep the tall cowboy boot heels or will that be adapted for a climbing bale or something? I would be concerned with toe crunch in cowboy boots if your have a low style of tele turning...

So do you envision the final version to look like normal cowboy boots or will they look more like a ski boot? You might not have to change out of them for apres ski...
Should this be in its own thread?



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Re: Surface Ruess

Post by MikeK » Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:13 pm

It can be it's own thread but is there enough to move everything?

Bri, why not just start a new one...



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Re: Surface Ruess

Post by Johnny » Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:56 pm

I think what people mean is, please post pictures of that stuff on the corner of your desk... 8-)
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Re: Surface Ruess

Post by Vailkilledtupac » Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:00 pm

Heyyo, new here. Im currently living in taos, nm, and i ski mostly in the southern san juans, sangre de cristos the sawatch range up by leadville. I actually did a bunch of lurking around here to figure out what to get as far as a backcountry xcd setup and ended up finding a pair of surface ruess's for $50 and a pair of alico teletours (with the ratcheting buckle) to go with them. The boot is barely enough to drive the ski downhill if it's anything less than boot deep. But the ski is great for missions. It's a negative pattern that doesn't grip much more than it drags when your trying to ski so it's a nice slow ride but you need low angle approaches and the right snow conditions for the to be any fun. Spring snow has proven the most consistently enjoyable as the glide and grip are maximized, while any hard or crusty conditions render them pretty useless, not to mention terrifying. Fresh powder can be great but if the snow temp is too low you get no grip. I actually busted the teletours so I'm looking for a new pair but I do plan to keep skiing this setup, it's awesome for lapping 200-400' vert laps on spring days



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