RFK speech, not what I expected. It’s worth 40 minutes

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Re: RFK speech, not what I expected. It’s worth 40 minutes

Post by Lhartley » Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:50 am

Interesting. Can you let the liberal politicians in my country trying to force them on me know that? Thanks, much appreciated
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Re: RFK speech, not what I expected. It’s worth 40 minutes

Post by MarkTrump » Thu May 01, 2025 10:12 am

Stephen wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:40 pm
Lhartley wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:26 pm
Ya ya. If you vote for one this one, they'll come in and fix everything caused by the previous administration. Even if the ARE the previous administration.Debt will be reduced, there be less inflation. Reduced deficits, and the environment will benefit. I'm the blind man
Of course politicians on both sides say those things. Too many people actually believe political rhetoric, so if one side is promising a chicken in every pot, the other side has to promise something as good or better.
Some people can look past the political theater to the substance of the candidate, the party, and the platform, and there are differences.
Listen less to what’s said, and more to what’s done.
Sure, there’s a political state that wants to perpetuate itself and it’s easy to feel cynical about the whole thing. And, TBH, that’s where I end up a lot of the time. But I’ll vote in this election, even though I’m not in one of the very few f’ing states that will actually decide the election.

Popular vote sounds good to me. The Federal government governs the Nation, as a whole, not individual states, or region, or interests.

https://www.procon.org/headlines/electo ... rocon-org/
The Electoral College is rooted in slavery and racism.
The “minority” interests the Founding Fathers intended the Electoral College to protect were those of slaveowners and states with legal slavery. James Madison stated, “There was one difficulty however of a serious nature attending an immediate choice by the people. The right of suffrage was much more diffusive in the Northern than the Southern States; and the latter could have no influence in the election on the score of the Negroes. The substitution of electors obviated this difficulty and seemed on the whole to be liable to fewest objections.” [29]

As Wilfred Wilfred Codrington III, Assistant Professor at Brooklyn Law School and a fellow at the Brennan Center, explained, “Behind Madison’s statement were the stark facts: The populations in the North and South were approximately equal, but roughly one-third of those living in the South were held in bondage. Because of its considerable, nonvoting slave population, that region would have less clout under a popular-vote system. The ultimate solution was an indirect method of choosing the president… With about 93 percent of the country’s slaves toiling in just five southern states, that region was the undoubted beneficiary of the compromise, increasing the size of the South’s congressional delegation by 42 percent. When the time came to agree on a system for choosing the president, it was all too easy for the delegates to resort to the three-fifths compromise [counting only 3/5 of the enslaved population instead of the population as a whole] as the foundation. The peculiar system that emerged was the Electoral College.” [29]
You're right, political rhetoric often overshadows substance, and the Electoral College’s history is rooted in an unfair system. It’s easy to feel cynical, but voting is still crucial, especially when considering the ongoing impact of African American voting rights, which have played a key role in shaping our political system.



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