Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Ingstad BC

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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Ingstad BC

Post by Cannatonic » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:45 pm

good job, I believe Neptune is still the only place in the USA selling the Asnes mohair skins.

A couple years ago, Neptune said they could order anything from Asnes for me over the off-season and I could get it in the fall, don't know if they still do that, would be another option if you're not in a hurry. Obviously you'd be paying list price.

Too bad about the NATOs, Neptune is where I bought mine (under the former owners)
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Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad BC; Asnes Gamme 54 BC; Asnes Falketind 62;Asnes Storetind Carbon
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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Ingstad BC

Post by lilcliffy » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:26 am

Roelant wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:33 am
For XC track skis there is significant variation between two pairs of the same length, for skis from any brand as far as I know.
It may be an artefact of production but there is not attempt to resolve it because the variation is considered useful.
In fact, in Norway, where most kids learn to cross country ski in kindergarten, it is considered imperative to have XC track skis matched to exactly your weight, so that the wax pocket is the correct length for your weight and technique.
Almost all sports shops worth their salt in Norway have equipment for loading skis and finding the effective length of a wax pocket under specific loads.
Thank you for giving this context.
I think there is no XCD ski which can provide me with a true wax pocket and still provide a fun downhill experience.
This is very true and very important. I weigh 178lbs and even my stiff 210cm Gamme 54 is easy to compress and get grip on soft BC snow. And its not just the need to pressure skis into turns- a BC ski with a true wax pocket is also miserable to climb a steep slope- and even the soft snow XC performance is challenging to engage the kick zone.
I can try to find time to drop by the sports shop and squeeze a few pairs of the same ski model to see if I notice a difference.
That would be cool!
I examined the camber on my friend's 205cm Ingstad BC yesterday- it is in between the other two (i.e. the newest is the most cambered- my personal pair has the least). My personal pair is the least cambered- but it has hundreds more kilometres of hard skiing on it than the other two.
However- when I compress the camber on all three they feel like they have about the same resistance underfoot.
(And you know what is interesting- I think that the actual resistance underfoot between my Gamme 54s and Ingstad BC is actually very close...I think the big difference in performance between the Ingstad BC/Gamme 54 BC is not due to a difference in camber/stiffness underfoot, but due to the overall geometry and flex pattern being so different between the two skis.)
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Petetheswede
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Ski style: Touring with turns
Favorite Skis: Åsnes Gamme, Ingstad
Favorite boots: Lundhags Guide BC
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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Ingstad BC

Post by Petetheswede » Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:27 pm

I just want to share my first Ingstad experience. Bought them after long hard thinking in size 195cm. Approx 75kg. Nnn-BC with a stiff boot. Due to climate change this was My first opportunity. I was unable to source polar wax at the shop so i did the full length grip wax with swix green and blue in the kick zone. Snow was not good for this ski solid base with crusty rop. At some places better with some soft om top. Temperatures hovered between just below zero and quite a bit above.

My thoughts are these:
Lovely ski overall.
Very sweet downhill even on the crust. Carved nicely and i love the rising tips. Feels safe. I have faceplanted om gamme...
Fast gliding, the skin in the last very wet day (only skin day) revealed a dry area of about 25-30 cm which i believe is the true pocket. Behind this the skin is wet. Comparison with the gammes in 200cm ridden by my girlfriend who is a little bit lighter than me revealed almost twice as Long dry area (highly scientific measurement of camber).
Greenwaxing the entire base worked fine in higher temperatures and made it possible to abstain from red wax which i assume is good for skins and general wellbeing.

Cheers
Petter

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Petetheswede
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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Ingstad BC

Post by Petetheswede » Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:28 pm

Oh, will i regret not going 205? Probably... :D

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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Ingstad BC

Post by treehugger » Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:25 pm

Woodserson wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:46 pm
Like Cannatonic... Get the mohair skins for this ski. The 30mm should be fine for flat travel, 45 or 58mm for serious vertical work. I use my 30mm mohairs on my Gamme 54's in waxless conditions all the time and trimmed right, they are fantabulous. Work great.
Been using 45 mohair a lot and they work great! Better grip and glide than my waxless (but very different skis). Impressed that skins are so functional. Would like to also get 58mm for climbing. Would 58 mohair be enough of a difference or should I get nylon? I've read posts where this has been discussed and think I might be disappointed with nylon.

Ingstad BC have been perfect for my needs. After only 4" in Feb last few days we've gotten 4+ feet at lake level. With resorts closed I'm getting out every day on Ingstads in all kinds of powder. The other evening wax was working amazing. Snow coming down, 4" dry powder. It was a spiritual experience: the world just slipped away and I felt like I was flying. I'm sure others know the feeling. I get why wax is worth the trouble. With skins it isn't even a compromise.

I've been able to try them in everything from 2" of powder to 4ft. No surprise that they don't work in waist deep snow. In 9" they are a dream. I've been out in the woods a few times but getting some tracks established is HARD work. Not a lot of other people around to help. Another day or so and snow may get denser and allow me to do some deeper touring. Mainly just hitting the streets in between plowing. With 2-3" an hour snowfall it can get a foot deep between plows.
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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Ingstad BC

Post by treehugger » Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:07 pm

Deep dry powder turns to sierra cement and I couldn't be happier! :lol: In real deep powder Ingstad has been pretty difficult. Things warmed up to 30º and snow is much denser (5'-6' compressing to 3'-4'). With center compressing a foot under surface tips float nicely. Easy to get some glide going. Perfect for sierra cement conditions! What a nice surprise.

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