Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Ingstad BC

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Franz
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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Ingstad BC

Post by Franz » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:33 am

Nice. Combat Nato may be what I am looking for. Thanks...or Nansen?

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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Ingstad BC

Post by Nitram Tocrut » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:48 am

Woodserson wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:50 pm
some notes in the description

Just curious to know your boots, bindings and length of the Ingstad.

Impressive for me...



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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Ingstad BC

Post by Woodserson » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:14 am

Nitram Tocrut wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:48 am


Just curious to know your boots, bindings and length of the Ingstad.

Impressive for me...
....aaaaannnd I almost, almost, wipe out.
Asnes Ingstad 195cm (wax)
Rottefella Super Telemark binding
Alpina Alaska 75mm

In this video I'm leaning into the turn a bit here with the lurk. I usually counter-rotate in the opposite direction with the lurk, which provides better balance and sets me up for the next turn.



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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Ingstad BC

Post by Cannatonic » Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:13 pm

Woods is that dawn patrol? It looks like the ski area is closed but the corduroy is freshly pressed.
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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Ingstad BC

Post by Woodserson » Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:53 pm

Midweek morning, bruh. :D

I just played the movie really slow and I cross my tips during that speed wobble, the giant Ingstad rocker overlaps my other ski. I didn't even realize at the time. Check it out! Man, even closer to wiping out than I thought!



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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Ingstad BC

Post by Coasterfisher » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:58 am

Hi there, I want to do XC skis in powder snow and break trail easily. I read a lot of forum and the Combat Nato is often mentionned. But I cannot get Combat Nato in Canada as the Ingstad remains the only option for this brand. So what is the best XC breaking trail skis that i can get, I will do some little downhill but not much, Thanks a lot guys!



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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Ingstad BC

Post by lilcliffy » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:48 pm

Welcome Coasterfisher!

I own both the Combat Nato (210cm) and the current Ingstad BC (205cm).

The deep snow XC performance of these skis is very similar.
The Combat Nato has a broader tip and does break trail more effectively than the Ingstad BC.
The Ingstad BC has considerable tip rocker- but remains completely stable when XC skiing in deep soft snow because its tip is stiff and supportive.
The Ingstad BC- due to its tip rocker- offers much better downhill performance than the Combat Nato.
The Combat Nato is a better XC ski on dense consolidated snow because it has a longer glide zone- due to not having any tip rocker.

These are both excellent superb deep snow XC skis because they offer decent flotation and have a stable, supportive flex.

The Norseman in Calgary typically carries the Combat Nato ski:
https://norsemanoutdoorspecialist.com/
I have bought and shipped skis from the Norseman to NB- excellent experience.

Other deep snow XC skis?
- Asnes USGI (MT68)- available thru army surplus (decent on all snow conditions)
- Asnes Gamme 54 BC (decent on all snow conditions and terrain)
- Asnes Amundsen (decent on all snow conditions- flat/gentle terrain)
- Fischer Excursion 88 (decent on all snow conditions)
- Fischer S-Bound 112 (deep snow only)
- Madshus Annum (deep snow only)
- Rossignol BC100 (new model)
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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Ingstad BC

Post by lilcliffy » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:56 pm

Cannatonic wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:29 pm
for the price of a little more weight the NATO Combat is the same ski with less rocker. It comes in 200cm which offers another option for length. IMO you want the 200cm+ length for more flotation, it will be harder to log miles in deep snow with a shorter ski.
Just a note for clarity-
I own both these skis- Combat Nato and Ingstad BC. The Combat Nato is the same ski as the previous generation Ingstad. They are no longer the same skis.

Although they have a similar sidecut profile- theses two skis have completely different flex profiles.
The Ingstad BC is a narrowly tuned XC ski for deep snow and steep terrain- due to its stable flex and considerable tip rocker.
The Combat Nato has a much longer glide zone and effective edge- due to it having no tip rocker.

They are very different skis now.

I love both of them and highly recommend them!

I regret to say that owning both an Ingstad BC and a Gamme 54 has made my Combat Nato redundant in my quiver.
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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Ingstad BC

Post by lilcliffy » Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:02 pm

Franz wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:33 am
Nice. Combat Nato may be what I am looking for. Thanks...or Nansen?
Hi Franz-
What are you planning on using this ski for?
I may be wrong here- never seen a Nansen- but my impression is that the Nansen and the Combat Nato are very different XC skis...
Gareth
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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Ingstad BC

Post by Franz » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:06 am

Hi lilcliffy,

I am primarily looking for a distance wax ski for optimal glide and turn-ability. I have Fischer E-88 that will take me most places and S-98 for turns in the woods. The skis I am looking for would be used in cold snow in both soft and consolidated conditions - no resort trails. I have older S-Bound Snowbound Crowns (78s) that I use on packed trails but would like more glide provided by wax skis.



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