OAC XCD 160 and XCD GT UC Skis

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Re: New OAC XCD GT UC

Post by lilcliffy » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:36 pm

Young Satchel wrote: Bahhhhhhh. Don't tempt me! Making me want to get the recently-discussed Fisher 78s, these, and then use my step Dad's classic XC skis (he's got a quiver of 5 or 6) for groomed track days at the XC center.
Now that would give you a full spectrum for BC Nordic touring! Put the same binding on all of them and your boots will work on any ski!

I feel like I am pretty much decided at that price- just waiting to hear back from MEC and OAC on the accuracy of the specs...
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Re: OAC XCD 160 and XCD GT UC Skis

Post by lowangle al » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:13 am

Young Satchel wrote:
lowangle al wrote:They ain't yer grandaddys XCD-GTs like the ones I've been skiin for over 30 years but they look like nice skis. I have two big questions, How much are they? Do they only sell them with that binding. I saw that they make skis for kids too, which is a good idea with those bindings saving you on boots.
If MEC pricing is to be believed, Looks like they are 419 CAD which equals about $327 USD. That is the price SANS bindings.

From looking at pics and watching the videos, i don't see why you can't mount whatever binding you like on there within reason. But I gotta say the footage of that dude shredding the trees in Sorels makes a pretty strong case for their integrated system.

Thanks YS, the price isn't too bad but I doubt it's the same caliber ski as the Objective. It appears to be quite capable and a good value. I was impressed with the videos, the first one I saw was more mellow terrain and I could see the sorrels working with those smooth turns, but the second video he did shread it. The guy is obviously a good skier too. For someone just getting into bc skiing and it being your only bc ski I would go with a conventional boot and binding.



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Re: OAC XCD 160 and XCD GT UC Skis

Post by lilcliffy » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:42 am

Just in from Asnes on the weight- per pair- of the Tind 76 and 85:
Hi,

Tind 76, 164 cm is 1030 g
Tind 85, 167 cm is 1175 g

Med venleg helsing / Best regards

Sandra Sandvik
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Email: sandra.sandvik@activebrands.com
Weight of 164cm Voile Objective BC: 1.90 kg per pair...

Waiting to hear back from OAC on the weight of the XCD GT.
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Re: OAC XCD 160 and XCD GT UC Skis

Post by lilcliffy » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:06 pm

Just received a reply from OAC in Finland:
Thanks Gareth for your email and interest regarding our new XCD GT. Hope you like it, it will be in shops soon J
length 160
sidecut 116-86-100 mm
weight 1050g per pair w/o binding
camber/flex sort of 1 ½ Camber
Please let me know if you have any further questions.
Our agent in Canada is Gamic Sports.

Best Regards,

Reetta Vuorio
OAC Finland Oy

http://www.oac.fi | http://www.oacsport.fi | http://www.skinbased.com
1050g per pair...
WOW!

This must be a miscommunication- 1050g per ski sounds more reasonable? 2.1kg per pair.
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Re: OAC XCD 160 and XCD GT UC Skis

Post by lilcliffy » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:25 pm

Quick comparisons (UPDATED)- this is reportedly the weight of a single ski without bindings:

Voile Objective BC 164cm (112-80-97mm): 0.950kg (2.094 lbs)

Asnes Tind 76 164cm (111-76-98mm): 1.030kg (2.271 lbs)

OAC XCD GT 160cm (116-86-100mm): 1.050kg (2.314 lbs)

Asnes Tind 85 167cm (118-85-103mm): 1.175kg (2.590 lbs)

Fischer S-Bound 112 169cm (112-78-95mm): weight???

Madshus Annum 165cm: (109-78-95mm): weight???
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Re: OAC XCD 160 and XCD GT UC Skis

Post by boby13 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:52 pm

lilcliffy wrote:Just in from Asnes on the weight- per pair- of the Tind 76 and 85:
Hi,

Tind 76, 164 cm is 1030 g
Tind 85, 167 cm is 1175 g

Med venleg helsing / Best regards

Sandra Sandvik
kundeservice/ customerservice

Direct: +47 91902094
Office: +47 56 51 98 00
Email: sandra.sandvik@activebrands.com
Weight of 164cm Voile Objective BC: 1.90 kg per pair...

Waiting to hear back from OAC on the weight of the XCD GT.
Thanks Gareth for your email and interest regarding our new XCD GT. Hope you like it, it will be in shops soon J
length 160
sidecut 116-86-100 mm
weight 1050g per pair w/o binding
camber/flex sort of 1 ½ Camber
Please let me know if you have any further questions.
Our agent in Canada is Gamic Sports.

Best Regards,

Reetta Vuorio
OAC Finland Oy

http://www.oac.fi | http://www.oacsport.fi | http://www.skinbased.com
Hello, I think people in Europe do not know that a "pair of ski" means 2 ski.

It makes no sense that a mid-range ski pair like the OAC weighs less than high performance racing skis like the Dynafit pdg 2.0(1380g at 161cm) https://skimo.co/dynafit-dna-2-ski

I think Asnes and OAC have given you the weight of a single ski

Asnes Tind 76 (2150g at 172cm) https://www.asnes.com/produkt/tind-76/
Asnes Tind 85 (2590g at 176cm) https://www.asnes.com/produkt/asnes-tin ... komstfell/
OAC XCD (1800g at 160cm on mec website) https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5051-639/XCD-Skis
(1800g at 160cm on aventure nordique website) https://www.aventurenordique.com/skis-oac-xcd.html

And there is not much info on the OAC XCD GT but they have the same construction as the OAC XCD except wider. So logically they can not be lighter. On the MEC website they say 1050g, which is probably the weight of a single ski, then the pair would weigh 2100g. https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5055-509/XCD-GT-UC-Skis



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Re: OAC XCD 160 and XCD GT UC Skis

Post by Johnny » Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:03 am

Boby is right... As I said earlier, that just doesn't make any sense...

Cliffy, The Tind 85 is not 2.590 LBS, but 2.590 KG a pair... Quite different... ;)

I refuse to believe OAC stating that a fat 116mm wide ski like the new XCD GT could weight only 525g per ski. The world is not there yet... Even Ski Trab and Merelli skinny 1000$ racing skis are not going below 600g... Bri7's Salomon Minims skinnies are 720g. Voile's superlight fat Objectives are 950g.

How can a snowshoes company pretend something like this?!? That is not serious...

Your comparison chart needs a little update... 8-)
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Re: OAC XCD 160 and XCD GT UC Skis

Post by Johnny » Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:32 am

Ooops... Sorry LC, I hit the wrong button and screwed up your last post...

But thanks a lot for posting the info... Now everything is clear...

You asked them clearly, and they replied clearly... We just don't believe them... 8-)
Thanks Gareth for your email and interest regarding our new XCD GT. Hope you like it, it will be in shops soon J
weight 1050g per pair w/o binding

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Re: OAC XCD 160 and XCD GT UC Skis

Post by Johnny » Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:54 am

Not believing the info received from OAC, that would be the correct data for skis in that category: (Weight per ski)

1- Voile Objective BC 164cm (112-80-97mm): 0.950kg (2.09lbs)

2- Asnes Tind 76 164cm (111-76-98mm): 1.030kg (2.27lbs)

3- OAC XCD GT 160cm (116-86-100mm): 1.050kg (2.31lbs)

4- Asnes Tind 85 167cm (118-85-103mm): 1.175kg (2.59lbs)

5- G3 Findr 78 XCD 162cm (118-78-105): 1.25kg (2.75lbs)
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