Nnnbc magnum bindings on wide skis???

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Re: Nnnbc magnum bindings on wide skis???

Post by Baaahb » Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:02 pm

Johnny wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:55 pm
And this is also the reason why unlike 75mm, you need a pretty good technique to ride NNN-BC downhill...
:roll:

Correction..you need a different technique..with 75mm, you don't need those training wheel grooves. :D

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Re: Nnnbc magnum bindings on wide skis???

Post by lowangle al » Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:49 pm

Baaahb wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:02 pm
Johnny wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:55 pm
And this is also the reason why unlike 75mm, you need a pretty good technique to ride NNN-BC downhill...
:roll:

Correction..you need a different technique..with 75mm, you don't need those training wheel grooves. :D
Or those turn enhancing bumpers. :)

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Re: Nnnbc magnum bindings on wide skis???

Post by freeheelwilly » Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:07 pm

Johnny wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:55 pm

Same old story... Heavier and more aggressive gear instead of finesse and grace... The story of humanity...
Definitely not my way of solving problems... Whether for XCD or other spheres of life... 8-)

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Re: Nnnbc magnum bindings on wide skis???

Post by lowangle al » Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:40 pm

Johnny wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:55 pm


Same old story... Heavier and more aggressive gear instead of finesse and grace... The story of humanity...
Definitely not my way of solving problems... Whether for XCD or other spheres of life... 8-)

Peace out
Have you ever thought that you can ski with finesse and grace with heavier boots and still have good "feel" for the snow? I get a more responsive, more precise carving better controlled ski. This is especially true on a wider ski. I get more out of every hill with T4s and generally ski it better. I also have more confidence that the ski is going to do exactly what I expect and don't have to worry about it getting deflected.

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Re: Nnnbc magnum bindings on wide skis???

Post by connyro » Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:47 pm

Johnny wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:55 pm
Same old story... Heavier and more aggressive gear instead of finesse and grace... The story of humanity...
Definitely not my way of solving problems... Whether for XCD or other spheres of life...
Sigh.

Same old story...Some guy thinks their way of doing things is superior, and then disparage any contrary opinions and experiences...The story of humanity...
Definitely not my way of solving problems... Whether for XCD or other spheres of life...

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Re: Nnnbc magnum bindings on wide skis???

Post by freeheelwilly » Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:43 pm

What some call "finesse and grace", others call spastic flailing.

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Re: Nnnbc magnum bindings on wide skis???

Post by Lo-Fi » Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:46 pm

freeheelwilly wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:43 pm
What some call "finesse and grace", others call spastic flailing.
Yes, but the challenge is spastic flailing done with finesse and grace.

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Re: Nnnbc magnum bindings on wide skis???

Post by Baaahb » Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:33 pm

Lo-Fi wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:46 pm
freeheelwilly wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:43 pm
What some call "finesse and grace", others call spastic flailing.
Yes, but the challenge is spastic flailing done with finesse and grace.
FTW

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Re: Nnnbc magnum bindings on wide skis???

Post by Johnny » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:56 pm

lowangle al wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:40 pm
Have you ever thought that you can ski with finesse and grace with heavier boots and still have good "feel" for the snow?
If I ever thought about it??? I spent years searching for the ultimate XCD experience... I tried every possible combination of boots, bindings and exotic skis. Alas, none of them compares to the unique feeling that only NNN-BC and leathers can provide me. I have never experienced that sense of bliss on any other systems and combinations. I'm not saying that you can't have some kind of fun with your heavy artillery... Only for me, I think that life is too short and too precious to not enjoy XCD at its fullest expression...
I get a more responsive, more precise carving better controlled ski. I get more out of every hill with T4s and generally ski it better. I also have more confidence that the ski is going to do exactly what I expect and don't have to worry about it getting deflected.
You are right, those T4s and Excursions that I hate so much give you much more control. But sadly, only 1/100th of the feeling. What is it with that control obsession anyway? Why the need for "confidence", "worry" and "control" in your ski concept? What are you afraid of??? What is it that you fear so much, to the point of strangling your feet in a plastic contraceptive and turn the holy XCD experience into a bland orthodox one? :D

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Lo-Fi wrote: I love my 78mm waisted Guide skis, and my 98mm waisted Koms. I'm just not sure the Koms are the most appropriate XCD match to the Magnums and Alaskas.
Just to stir it up... My good old Armada planks, which are my all time favorite NNN-BC downhill skis, are 100mm underfoot... :lol:
freeheelwilly wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:43 pm
What some call "finesse and grace", others call spastic flailing.
Please do not confuse "finesse and grace" with what some call "arcing" and "monomark"... It has nothing to do with it...
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Re: Nnnbc magnum bindings on wide skis???

Post by freeheelwilly » Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:21 pm

Please do not confuse "finesse and grace" with what some call "arcing" and "monomark"
I'm not.

As for the rest of it, I have no idea what you're talking about. Which makes us even because neither do you.

Listen, I don't get involved in these technique debates. They're boring and besides, I'm completely unqualified. But I know a flailing beater when I see one - spotting one of those doesn't take credentials, just a set of reasonably functioning eyes.

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