Phoenix- I chose to respond to this in a new thread.phoenix wrote:OK, about that chord center being an arbitrary measuement and such...
Admittedly, I am prone toward leaning toward old ways, to a degree. Following this post, I'm reading a lot of techie angst about the mounting points, who suggests what, and etc. Regarding the Asnes' in question - maybe the fact that they've been around for many decades, said mount 'em on the balance point, and re-asserted that might hold some validity?
Do you think that "new school" techniques might be easier to achieve by moving the mounting point forward to get quicker initiation... and what happens to the tails, and finish of the turn when doing so?
Might there be a reason why in the K2 catalog, circa 2009, there was a thorough explanation of why they recommend chord center mounts?
True enough, rocker and other newewst and best modifications affect the question, howeveris a long standing and time tested option a dinosaur? Apparently Asnes doesn't think so, in all cases. It ain't arbitrary, and is not necessarily the best for every ski, but is by no means arbitrary for the manufacturer's who know the intricacies of their craft.
Case in point: I picked up some Objective's end of last season. Went thru all sorts of inquiries, here and elsewhere, to choose a mounting point. Spoke to the folks at Voile, and got their measurement. Put 'em on the bench and measured multiple times... turns out Voile's suggested point, chord center, and BOF/CRS were all within a half centimeter of each other. I have not yet bothered to match boot center of anything. They ski beautifully, for me.
Now I assure you I'm not bustin' on anybody's opinion here. Nor one's technique. Just sayin' sometimes, oftentimes, new and different isn't always better... or even as new and different as it may appear. I cm. fore or aft of whatever shouldn't be an issue for a skier; you'dadjust your technique, if needed, ever so slightly to accomodate.
Long rant, I know. more simply put... it ain't such a big deal sometimes.
My limited experience- in the past I have mounted all of my downhill-oriented backcountry Nordic touring/Telemark skis on Chord Center (CC). WHY? I don't really know why- I was told to do it. With respect to traditional Nordic skis, that did not have extreme sidecut, and also had raised tips- CC moved the mounting point forward of the XC-oriented Balance Point (BP), and was told and convinced that this improved turn initiation (BTW- I have never been thrilled with my CC mounts when downhill skiing in deep powder snow...)
SO!!! What do you think- does Chord Center make any frackin' sense? Did it in the past and why? Does it now, when Nordic skis have low-profile tips, and more and more BC Nordic touring skis (and almost all downhill skis) have tip rocker?