Re: Nordic backcountry setup for above treeline
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:20 am
^^^Well said.
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After your mention of compressing the camber, we did the 'paper test', and found that the paper is just able to pass under when the skis are evenly loaded, but not when only one ski takes the load. Whereas when I just walked and stepped on them evenly, my weight was too much and the paper didn't pass. Not sure how much difference this makes in the real world, but it has sort of convinced us to keep the skis for my wife (them having NNN-BC bindings - same as her shoes, also makes things easier). I look forward to hear about your experience with the Excursion 88s.Mostly, I want to comment on #1--your wife, at 92 lbs, is at the very weight end of adult skis. She will marginally be able to compress the camber to go uphill on skis with a wide weight range (ie the Fischers). A shorter ski with a narrower weight range might be a better choice. I would guess your wife is not the strongest person, and a shorter ski will also be easier to wedge. There is no advantage to a longer ski for her in powder--she isn't going to sink, and speed will not be an issue. Climbing and wedging should be your concerns.
The 169 cms are probably less than recommended for you. A shorter ski will be more maneuverable, but will not float as well.
I think that if you're new to backcountry skiing, the important thing is to get a reasonable setup and just get out there as much as you can. After struggling the first season or two, you'll have a much clearer idea of what kind of skiing and terrain floats your boat.
These are indeed wise words. We got into skiing in April in the last few days of snow. The current deliberation is to ensure we don't miss even a weekend this season . I also completely agree about things will become clearer after personally trying stuff out, and about straying. I learnt so much about the differences between track skis, BC 70, and Eon by skiing on them just once than I would ever from reading about them. For the coming season, except for skis for me, I think we are set in terms of gear. Now for me, I am looking for similar (or a touch less) touring capabilities of Excursion-88, but may be with more turnability. So in addition to E-88, I am also thinking of S-Bound 98 and Epoch. But may be they will be too much to handle on leather boots?Anyhow, just go out and ski and all will become much clearer. You may find yourself straying far from the path you see now. It's a journey...
We had a similar experience when we held mountaineering boots for the first time last winter. After 20-30 miles of climbing in them (over several outings), they are easily the most comfortable shoes I have ever had!Everything is relative rongon, I remember my first time out with leather tele boots and I thought they were too stiff for touring.
I don't think that the Fischer 88 is a double-cambered ski (somebody please correct me if I am wrong here!!)?hrishi wrote: After your mention of compressing the camber, we did the 'paper test', and found that the paper is just able to pass under when the skis are evenly loaded, but not when only one ski takes the load. Whereas when I just walked and stepped on them evenly, my weight was too much and the paper didn't pass. Not sure how much difference this makes in the real world, but it has sort of convinced us to keep the skis for my wife
This depends on terrain, snow, and skill- as well as the specific "leather" boot- some leather Telemark boots are very stiff and supportive...others are truly intended for XC performance...So in addition to E-88, I am also thinking of S-Bound 98 and Epoch. But may be they will be too much to handle on leather boots?