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bgregoire wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:30 pm

Eärendil wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:21 am

lilcliffy wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:48 pm

This jacket: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/ ... cket/59958
Very cool.
Now on list to Santa.

Woolshell does seem like a smart design in cold weather. It would be interesting to know how much the fabric brakes wind compared to other solutions. The fact that this jacket has pit zips seems to imply rather high wind resistance and need to ventilate extra.

//Rickard//

I tried an Aclima Woolshell pant as an outer shell several years ago. Not the best for wind protection. Its basically a very soft, light "softshell" made with wool.

That other eastearn european product mentionned above looks like something else, but still, I dont want me outer shell to be insulative. I want to layer as needed. I'm sticking with my Fjallraven Keb (G-1000 cotton/poly and softshell panels). With it, there is no need for an extra shell in my pack, just an extra insulative layer.

Eärendil wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:51 am

When I was looking to buy a more breathable softshell, the Keb jacket was a strong contender. I like the hood especially. Great protection. My concern was whether the softshell panels would be a bit too breathable in strong winds. Is the extra insulation enough in all conditions for you?

//Rickard//

bgregoire wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:54 pm

lilcliffy wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:48 pm

This jacket: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/ ... cket/59958
Very cool.
Now on list to Santa.

Here's some commentts about it on some bushcraft site:
https://bushcraftusa.com/forum/threads/ ... et.235441/

"It has very little insulation properties though I found as it’s not a thick material and it lets wind through quite easily so you’ll definitely need an insulation layer underneath in cold weather and a wind proof layer over top if there’s any real windchill factor."

If that comment is true, I wonder why wear it?

bgregoire wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:37 pm

Eärendil wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:51 am

When I was looking to buy a more breathable softshell, the Keb jacket was a strong contender. I like the hood especially. Great protection. My concern was whether the softshell panels would be a bit too breathable in strong winds. Is the extra insulation enough in all conditions for you?

//Rickard//

The hood is soooooo awesome, I use it all the time. I would not do without. Especially if I lived in northern Sweden. I'm based in Québec (Canada) but do have a good connection with Sweden, have skied there a few times already. This has allowed me to get acquainted with a lot of the Scandinavian gear before it became available in North America (Fjallraven, Klattermusen, Bergans, etc.)

Anyhow. The Keb, even though cotton is a little heavy, has been my go to nordic bc ski jacket for the last, o, 5 years or so. The main breathable softshell panels cover the entire back and around the elbows/arms. The softshelled arms just make the coat more flexible and easier to move in. The back panel helps dump loads of extra humidity.

I go for the Keb whenever the temp is between about -2C to -20C (excluding windchill factor). In the warmer temperature of that zone, it works great as is, great wind protection over all the front, and good thermoregulation, even when its quite windy. I'll usually carry a fanny pack water bottle with a snack and some waxes. In colder temperatures or on longer tours, I often carry a small light back pack. The backpack contains an insulated water bottle, a down jaclet and an extra insulative layer. The backpack acts as insulation (and wind protection) on my back. Which is actually a serious problem for me (as I sweat a lot there) with most standard jackets. However, the thicl softshell material just makes it such that the back ventilates well there with the backpack on.

I'll mention that I am a fan of the Alcima woolnet underwear. But with the Keb, I usually go for a non-meshed thin wool or synthetic base layer.

My Keb is a size larger than the normal size (i'm usually a size M, and mine is L). This was a mistake when I bought it, but as the Keb is designed clean-cut and athletic(don't know how to say it), I feel this larger size gives me more winter options (layers as needed) and still does not feel bulky.

For warmer temps, I still go for an ultralight windshell or nordic ski softshell once in a while. Here is my review of one I still use: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=2288

On an extended tour of northern scandinavia, I used a Klattermusen Rimxfaxe. This coat is soooo amazing, especially for pulk hauling (unfortunately appears to be discontinued). Its downside is, with a pack, the back cotton just gets soaked, like any cotton/ventile/etaproof jacket would, and presses that humidity against my body.

Ha det bra!

greatgt wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:00 am

Couldn't read all the replies so will give my take...If redundant delete....Merino underwear.....decent wool sweater....merino vest or any wool vest....windbreaker in the pack....Three times this year have used a coat....merino is many times better than any, ANY, synthetic wear....It whisks better than away clothing...stays warm....Read somewhere that it was 30 times better at all the functions that synthetics try to sell you....Arc on everybody! TM