Midwidth Ski Measurements: Eon/S78/Ingstad

[MikeK]

I notice that on all my skis Tom. That plate adds a fair deal of stiffness I believe. Pins are better in this respect.

[lilcliffy]

So in essence really the Eon is on the downslide. It's an older design that hasn't been updated and developed like the other two have. It shows. It's a good ski but I'd toss it for either the Fischer or the Asnes.

What about the loss of the long S-78? A real shame. Can't be enough of a market to keep making it?

I'm actually amazed that Madshus is still making the 205cm Eon; and especially the waxable high-quality sintered base.

[lilcliffy]

I notice that on all my skis Tom. That plate adds a fair deal of stiffness I believe. Pins are better in this respect.

? Why would pins produce greater stiffness than NNNBC? The binding NNNBC binding plate is much longer? Or did you mean the opposite?

[Cannatonic]

What about the loss of the long S-78? A real shame. Can't be enough of a market to keep making it?

it is too bad, the 199's don't seem overly bulky or hard to handle. But they still offer you the E109 in 200 and 205. Not a bad substitute.

[MikeK]

Yeah that is true... we lost the 199...

I meant I don't think the pins appreciably change the flex of the ski.

[Cannatonic]

I measured my Asnes more carefully - on the Breidablikk the BP is only 3/16" behind CC, about .5cm. On the 210 Gamme it's more like 2/16, almost the same spot. I suspect the design goal is to get the BP and CC nearly to the same spot.

On my 210 E99's the BP is nearly a full inch behind CC. The dimensions are the same, but the weight distribution of the two skis is very different.

[STG]

Mike:

Thanks for this informative post. You obviously have a keen grasp of the science (ski physics) and are able to demonstrate this understanding through your charts and graphs. Your interpretation is also helpful. I am going to think about this post for awhile because the physics of skis/skiing is an interesting topic.

[MikeK]

Don't know how helpful these info's really are, but they are meant to be complimentary to our subjective commentaries on skis. If I can measure something, I will. If I can show something in a video, I will try. This gives us some objective basis for understanding the equipment available.

In the online world, the days of going to a ski shop and demoing skis are coming to an end. Even if you can demo, it's unlikely the shop will carry more than two lines of skis.

I wish manufacturers gave more info than sidecut and weight, but it is what it is. I also like to measure them because as you can see, sometimes the number they print on the ski isn't exactly what they are.