Asnes Quiver addition advice sought

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Re: Asnes Quiver addition advice sought

Post by Hyalite » Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:03 pm

lilcliffy wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:25 am
@Hyalite
Curious as to where you are at with this- have you narrowed down your search for a waxabke BC Nordic touring ski?
The 179cm 88 may be a little short for you- but you don't weigh much- so it depends on context (ie terrain; snow; etc).
I personally prefer the narrower 78- as it is much lighter and faster in my application- we have both the 88 and 78 in 199cm- I would not want them shorter, but I weigh much more than you, and I am not using either of these skis in truly steep terrain.
I’m going to give the Sverdrup a try in 190. Seems like it could be a bit more “alive” than the Nansen, and also handle the ups and downs of the Mtn area I’m in better than a thin ski such as the Gamme. While the Gamme was tempting, it is possibly less forgiving, I may also add the Mtn Tour for the times the groomer has made it out. My concern is that the Nansen wouldn’t be that much of a departure from the E88 in the Ho hum dept. We’ll see how it all plays out once the snow falls. Pairing it up with XP and the Skaget. I’m hoping for a lighter set up, more playful ski in our typical days of a few inches over ski’d on trails the groomer doesn’t reach. Mostly soft snow that’s dry up here. When it gets beat up or the temps warm I’ll grab the E88’s, they are like an old reliable bulldozer.

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Re: Asnes Quiver addition advice sought

Post by John Dee » Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:46 pm

A ski like the Gamme will blow through a few inches of snow. I'm not sure what a few inches is to you, though. Anyways, I think you've made your choice, and I think it still should be longer.



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Re: Asnes Quiver addition advice sought

Post by lilcliffy » Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:36 am

Hyalite wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:03 pm
lilcliffy wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:25 am
@Hyalite
Curious as to where you are at with this- have you narrowed down your search for a waxabke BC Nordic touring ski?
The 179cm 88 may be a little short for you- but you don't weigh much- so it depends on context (ie terrain; snow; etc).
I personally prefer the narrower 78- as it is much lighter and faster in my application- we have both the 88 and 78 in 199cm- I would not want them shorter, but I weigh much more than you, and I am not using either of these skis in truly steep terrain.
I’m going to give the Sverdrup a try in 190. Seems like it could be a bit more “alive” than the Nansen, and also handle the ups and downs of the Mtn area I’m in better than a thin ski such as the Gamme. While the Gamme was tempting, it is possibly less forgiving, I may also add the Mtn Tour for the times the groomer has made it out. My concern is that the Nansen wouldn’t be that much of a departure from the E88 in the Ho hum dept. We’ll see how it all plays out once the snow falls. Pairing it up with XP and the Skaget. I’m hoping for a lighter set up, more playful ski in our typical days of a few inches over ski’d on trails the groomer doesn’t reach. Mostly soft snow that’s dry up here. When it gets beat up or the temps warm I’ll grab the E88’s, they are like an old reliable bulldozer.
Cool! The Sverdrup is dreamy in the appropriate conditions! The Sverdrup is DEFINITELY easier to turn than the Gamme 54- the difference in flex and effective edge is massive.

The Nansen is very different than the Fischer 88- the Nansen is a much more effective downhill ski- especially on hard and/or difficult snow. The XC advantage of the 88 vs the Nansen- due to the 88's higher camber- is only a factor when XC skiing on dense-consolidated snow.
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Re: Asnes Quiver addition advice sought

Post by Hyalite » Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:50 pm

I’m thinking that the snow in the east where you live is significantly different than here, I lived in Wisconsin for 47 years, back when there was consistent snow cover there from December until March. There was that intermittent snow where we’d get several inches and then none at all for a week or two. But the low temps kept the old beat up consolidated snow around. It’s where I learned how to wax for a variety of conditions. Here at 6,000 ft in the Montana Rockies the snow falls more consistently and remains colder, fresh snow is common where I ski on nearly a daily basis, sometimes an inch or two, other time a foot or more. I think the Sverdrup is a good choice, heck I could have fun on just about any ski. The 88 was a revelation to me for grip and stability, but is like a dead fish compared to a nicely waxed ski of days gone by.



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Re: Asnes Quiver addition advice sought

Post by lilcliffy » Sun Dec 03, 2023 8:36 pm

Yes! Well the environmental ski context is certainly different here- vs Wisconsin vs Montana!

Sounds like the snow is grip wax prime-

but, I will be very interested to hear how you like the Sverdrup in fresh, cold soft snow-
personally I find the Sverdrup ski to be very unstable in truly deep soft snow...
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