Quiver Killers or 2nd Ski Kit?

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Haydos
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Quiver Killers or 2nd Ski Kit?

Postby Haydos » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:41 am

Hey Guys,

Just after some opinions / advice...

Just bought some Volkl Kendo's to Resort / Slackcountry Tele on and am about to pre-order the Bishop BMF's.

I'm currently riding BD Havoc's and Hammerheads.

I'll be buying some fat powder boards shortly also, so instead of buying 2 x BMF's...

Should i run quiver killers or buy 2 of the 2nd ski kits for the BMF's?

Has anybody had problems with the QK's? (i'll get them mounted in a shop so I don't stuff it up!)

Thanks!

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Re: Quiver Killers or 2nd Ski Kit?

Postby teleclub » Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:36 pm

Installed Quiver Killers on four pairs of skis early last Winter and have had no problems. (Two pairs each for two skiers.)

It was a lot of work to do properly, especially because the NTN Freedom bindings use eleven screws/QKs (!).

To me, QKs come into their real value when your binding of choice doesn't offer a 2nd ski kit or if the 2nd Ski kit is a lot more money than the QK kit.

I have switched bindings back and forth a couple times to use different skis but it's tedious with so many screws. Did the switch on the workbench at home; it's not something I'd plan to do on the tailgate at trailhead. Easy enough I guess but why risk dropping screws in snow.

Really glad I did the QKs, even if I were not switching a binding ski to ski. The NTN Freedom's ski brake fits into slots at the base of the binding and can only be removed/serviced by removing the binding. This summer I replaced the wide brakes on a couple pairs with the Freedom narrow brakes and I was glad I'd mounted the binding in a way that makes it easy to remove for repair / replace.

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Re: Quiver Killers or 2nd Ski Kit?

Postby Haydos » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:04 am

Thanks Teleclub!

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Re: Quiver Killers or 2nd Ski Kit?

Postby dnt_upton » Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:48 am

The main problem with QK's (or Binding Freedom inserts, my personal preference) paired with Bishops is the amount of time to move both bindings between skis. If it were me and if I were planning to swap back and forth regularly, I'd buy the switch kit for $70. QKs alone will run $25 (assuming you install them yourself). I should note that I have experience only with the older binding. Maybe these install quicker, but it doesn't look that way. You mount the bracket and then mount the binding to the bracket.

And to be clear, inserts are awesome. I use them all the time and install them for friends - probably 10 pairs of skis per winter. But they work great when you can swap bindings in under 5-10 minutes. Some bindings are a PITA to swap (22D Axl, Vice - aligning that slick pin through the holes and base plate) and some take a lot of time because of the number of screws to remove (Bishop). Voile and HH are easy.

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Re: Quiver Killers or 2nd Ski Kit?

Postby telemarkmark » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:51 am

On a narrow / light ski (ie Skimo ski) you are removing a substantial amount of width from the structure. 13mm of 65mm = 20%. Not sure if this is significant though.

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Re: Quiver Killers or 2nd Ski Kit?

Postby Rodbelan » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:01 am

telemarkmark wrote:On a narrow / light ski (ie Skimo ski) you are removing a substantial amount of width from the structure. 13mm of 65mm = 20%. Not sure if this is significant though.


Small round holes filled with stain steel & epoxy? Not significant. Never had any problem.

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Re: Quiver Killers or 2nd Ski Kit?

Postby dnt_upton » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:03 am

What Rod said.


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