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chemman

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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:06 pm Post subject: Romney: Buisness as Bermuda |
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So it looks like the guy has been stashing millions for years.
Why does Romney hate American businesses?
Shuts them down sells them off makes millions he hides away "offshore"
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James
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Just out of curiosity if he "hides" the money how do you and the Obama campaign know about it?
I would also like to know your enlightened opinion on why he "hides" his money off shore. |
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chemman

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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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I believe Mitt Romney is the only one who can truthfully answer those questions.
Why would he not if he didn't have something to hide?
Someone must have revealed the secret obviously.
I believe if someone knows you have it they will want it, so hide it.
18 trillion offshore _________________ Il n'y a que moi qui a toujours raison.
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James
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:55 am Post subject: |
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There are all sorts of reasons people move money off shore. Some are legal and some not. If they are legal what is the problem other then taking advantage of certain tax breaks or as you infer hiding the assets from some unknown future creditor. Are you going to suggest that only Romney or only republicans take advantage of tax breaks or protect their assets from creditors?
If they are illegal then he should be prosecuted for this illegal activity. But he might have to get in line behind Timothy Geithner and half the Obama cabinet. |
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jellero

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 6382 Location: Ironton, Boyne City, Charlevoix, East Jordan, Salida
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:58 am Post subject: |
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| but how will romney's millions invested in the caymans and switzerland "trickle down", creating new jobs in the u.s.? aren't these 1%ers the "job creators"? but where? well, he's probably the only one benefiting from the bush tax cuts for the rich and investing it in other countries, right? hey, vote for romney! he wants "common sense" medical care and he has a "plan" for the u.s. economy. j |
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Hacksaw
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:08 am Post subject: |
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| chemman wrote: |
I believe if someone knows you have it they will want it, so hide it.
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Birth Certificate/College course records/College Grades......  _________________ "Its all fun and games until someone gets hurt, then its a sport."
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James
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:22 am Post subject: |
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| jellero wrote: | | but how will romney's millions invested in the caymans and switzerland "trickle down", creating new jobs in the u.s.? aren't these 1%ers the "job creators"? but where? well, he's probably the only one benefiting from the bush tax cuts for the rich and investing it in other countries, right? hey, vote for romney! he wants "common sense" medical care and he has a "plan" for the u.s. economy. j |
You really don't understand this do you? The accounts are in foreign countries. What investments are held in the accounts could be and probably are the same as if the accounts were in the US. These people are not investing in those countries in the way you appear to think. |
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Sugarloafer

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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| James wrote: | | jellero wrote: | | but how will romney's millions invested in the caymans and switzerland "trickle down", creating new jobs in the u.s.? aren't these 1%ers the "job creators"? but where? well, he's probably the only one benefiting from the bush tax cuts for the rich and investing it in other countries, right? hey, vote for romney! he wants "common sense" medical care and he has a "plan" for the u.s. economy. j |
You really don't understand this do you? The accounts are in foreign countries. What investments are held in the accounts could be and probably are the same as if the accounts were in the US. These people are not investing in those countries in the way you appear to think. |
I haven't dug in to Romney's specifically because I don't give a shit enough to spend the time, but I wouldn't be suprised if a lot of his so-called foreign investments are merely deposits in the off-shore branches of domestic banks. Almost all large US banks have these branches (Caymen Islands is popular) which really are just file cabinets , but it allows them to pay higher rates for non-FDIC insured deposits for customers willing to assume that risk. One of my first assignments out of college was auditing the Nassau Branch of a large bank. I was pretty disappointed that I would be doing it from downtown Boston instead of the Bahamas. Like you said, this stuff really isn't a big deal. It would be funny as hell to see how many in the Obama administration are doing the same thing. _________________ "Take it from a member of the male species, walking around in public with an erection is somewhat of an embarrassment unless you are a bit..... off"........Bunion |
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otis of moab

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 5700 Location: Colorado Higher Country
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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Although I doubt the existence of foreign accounts is really newsworthy, he needs to address the matter and neutralize the issue.
ASAP _________________ otis
Federal policy is dividing society between "those who work for a living and those who vote for a living".
-H.L. Mencken
All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusion is called a philosopher.
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chemman

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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think this debate should be about the fact Romney has offshore accounts and companies. It should be about if Romney is willing to disclose his offshore activities. In order for an individual to become president of the USA the people who vote for him should have the highest confidence in that individual. Any other government employee, of which the president is, must disclose ALL financial information to the OPM in order to get their security clearance. I am sure some of you will disagree but the law is clear. Financial interests of and in an individual can be directly responsible for that persons actions as president.
The fact of the matter is that "offshore" accounts and businesses can and are used to conduct legal and illegal activities. Romney, the presidential candidate should look beyond his desire to keep his financial records private and disclose his offshore activities. He should take advantage of this opportunity to prove to the voting public that he is an honest man worthy of our vote for president. _________________ Il n'y a que moi qui a toujours raison.
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chemman

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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Sugarloafer wrote: | | It would be funny as hell to see how many in the Obama administration are doing the same thing. |
Who gives a shit they are not president.
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James
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| chemman wrote: | | Sugarloafer wrote: | | It would be funny as hell to see how many in the Obama administration are doing the same thing. |
Who gives a shit they are not president.
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Neither is Romney.
I like how you back pedaled from your original post. I agree with your second to last post and what Otis said but somehow don't think you would have such strong opinions if we were talking about a liberal. |
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chemman

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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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I would think you, James, would be the first to admit that offshore accounts and businesses have a lot to offer for ease of access, privacy, and currency etc. You should also be the first to admit that offshore accounts due to their nature allow for illegal activities of all types.
Another answer I would like to know is why Romney could carry out financial activities in the US (supporting US jobs) and not offshore. I understand that it is all about the money, but where do you draw the line of loyalty to country to community.
If Romney thinks everything is about GOD and MONEY does he not denounce his citizenship for a country that will not take as much as the USA, many other 1%'s have and make a killing.
It is like the guy talks about investing in America, but not with his money. His money is in a business in Bermuda and the Caymans, and Switzerland, and Spain, and Dubai, and Bahamas, and...
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chemman

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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| James wrote: | | chemman wrote: | | Sugarloafer wrote: | | It would be funny as hell to see how many in the Obama administration are doing the same thing. |
Who gives a shit they are not president.
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Neither is Romney.
I like how you back pedaled from your original post. I agree with your second to last post and what Otis said but somehow don't think you would have such strong opinions if we were talking about a liberal. |
If he is applying for the job he needs to fill out the application.
Short Form 86
There is a longer more detailed form.
Section 15 Military History NONE
There I filled that section out for him
And then there is section 20 Foreign Activities Oh yea baby! That will take him some time and additional attached sheets.
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ghostofcarl
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Sugarloafer wrote: | | James wrote: | | jellero wrote: | | but how will romney's millions invested in the caymans and switzerland "trickle down", creating new jobs in the u.s.? aren't these 1%ers the "job creators"? but where? well, he's probably the only one benefiting from the bush tax cuts for the rich and investing it in other countries, right? hey, vote for romney! he wants "common sense" medical care and he has a "plan" for the u.s. economy. j |
You really don't understand this do you? The accounts are in foreign countries. What investments are held in the accounts could be and probably are the same as if the accounts were in the US. These people are not investing in those countries in the way you appear to think. |
I haven't dug in to Romney's specifically because I don't give a shit enough to spend the time, but I wouldn't be suprised if a lot of his so-called foreign investments are merely deposits in the off-shore branches of domestic banks. Almost all large US banks have these branches (Caymen Islands is popular) which really are just file cabinets , but it allows them to pay higher rates for non-FDIC insured deposits for customers willing to assume that risk. One of my first assignments out of college was auditing the Nassau Branch of a large bank. I was pretty disappointed that I would be doing it from downtown Boston instead of the Bahamas. Like you said, this stuff really isn't a big deal. It would be funny as hell to see how many in the Obama administration are doing the same thing. |
Yeah, a higher rate in Switzerland currently
Being honest for the very wealthy global diversification is a reasonable investment strategy because you are portable and not tied to any nation. I'm not interested in a President who's not tied to this nation, and frankly Mittens has given no reasons as to why he wants to be President. He won't even say what he's going to do when he's President. |
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