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Tele-axel
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You can manipulate what is shown on this map towards the bottom, including detected fires, perimeters, smoke cover, etc... There seems to be quite a bit of this country burning right now, primarily South of I-80 and West of the Mississippi, although not exclusively 
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Nick (AT)
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We will be very happy to send you some of our rain.
Just finished a shift on our third closure of the Trans-Canada Highway for mudslides in as many weeks (and that isn't counting the one that happened the other side of Golden). 
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!ski
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I am a bit surprised there is not a huge fire in Summit County
with all the beetle kill trees ... summer is early.
For western Colorado and eastern Utah, the Southwest Monsoon generally begins around the second week of July.
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climbhoser
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No mention of yesterday's fire in Elbert?
Not big, comparatively, at 600 acres.
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jfeller
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| !ski wrote: | I am a bit surprised there is not a huge fire in Summit County
with all the beetle kill trees. |
Beetle-killed trees are highly flammable only while they still hold their dead needles. After the needles drop, they are actually less flammable than are live, green trees. |
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Tele Till You're Smelly
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A new one started today- from the Forest Service:
| Quote: | | A new fire, reported about 2 pm, was started by a downed power line in Cabezon Canyon about 2 miles south of Colo Hwy 151 and has prompted the evacuation of Chimney Rock Archaeological Area. A single engine airtanker, helicopters, engines responding. The fire is approximately 1 acre is size but is making a run, burning in pinon/juniper and oakbrush. EVACULATION OF CHIMNEY ROCK ARCHAEOLOGICAL AREA HAS BEEN ORDERED. 3 homes currently threatened. |
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skizix
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| jfeller wrote: | | !ski wrote: | I am a bit surprised there is not a huge fire in Summit County
with all the beetle kill trees. |
Beetle-killed trees are highly flammable only while they still hold their dead needles. After the needles drop, they are actually less flammable than are live, green trees. |
How is this possible? I'm skeptical.
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MattB
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| skizix wrote: | | jfeller wrote: | | !ski wrote: | I am a bit surprised there is not a huge fire in Summit County
with all the beetle kill trees. |
Beetle-killed trees are highly flammable only while they still hold their dead needles. After the needles drop, they are actually less flammable than are live, green trees. |
How is this possible? I'm skeptical. |
It seems plausible to me. The needles carry oil that is highly flammable. When dry they are tinder-like. When the needles aren't present it would take more heat/spark/flame to ignite the wood than to ignite green oily needles or dry tindery ones. Once ignited it probably doesn't make that much difference that the dead wood burns better, the fire is already going and hot enough to ignite "green" wood.
I hadn't really thought about it before and just figured dead trees are drier so they would burn more easily.
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SkaredShtles
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| skizix wrote: | | jfeller wrote: | | !ski wrote: | I am a bit surprised there is not a huge fire in Summit County
with all the beetle kill trees. |
Beetle-killed trees are highly flammable only while they still hold their dead needles. After the needles drop, they are actually less flammable than are live, green trees. |
How is this possible? I'm skeptical. |
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!ski
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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I will need to do a survey of how many beetle killed trees still have their needles ... or maybe we need to send "tree shakers" into the forest ...
-r |
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SkaredShtles
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| !ski wrote: | I will need to do a survey of how many beetle killed trees still have their needles ... or maybe we need to send "tree shakers" into the forest ...
-r |
They don't keep their needles long after dying. Most of the stands in Summit & Grand County have lost their needles. You can tell because a dead stand *with* the needles looks red-ish. A dead stand without looks kinda grey. |
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