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Gwen
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 Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:34 am Post subject: Can you say cover corn? |
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Nice cover BT! |
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X-Man
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| Oh that looks like fun. |
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Bernie
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Sweet! |
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Cyrus
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Way to be getting after it gentlemen.  |
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aqua_toque
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Corn covers - so much better than mountain bike covers. |
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Bob Chaliff
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| I thought you guys were having a bad snow year? Is that how it is out there? A bad snow year = good summer skiing? Geeze I gotta move. |
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Big Tim
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:18 am Post subject: |
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It's good up there.
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J
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Good, yes so good.
But more dangerous than may seem obvious. Avy beacons/probes are deep-packed(heresy!?!), shorts are de rigueur, down pants not a thought so life is easy.
Around here seems like many more are tasting Spring Corn than ever. Probably everywhere then. That could mean more trouble though. (Talked with a visitor yesterday, they asked about sledding the peaks..yikes!!!!)
The problem is a fall on a 30* slope doesn't just end up with a plop in the powder like winter conditions. Often even a moderate fall on corn can result in a 50-100ft slide.
As Big T's photo shows a slide for 50 feet could easily result in a rock wall slam, a crack fall or a cliff dive or....
Skiing corn means considering consequences of a fall more fully. Where will you go??? Knowing when to focus on confident skiing with total two edge control is important. Being able to choose such lines of descent will save lots of trouble.
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J
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:30 am Post subject: |
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But I no longer glissade more than 100ft and won't even consider a toboggan! 
Just a note if novices are in the group: their ski reality may not be yours and SARs suck! |
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robrox
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Location: following Diogenes, but the ba$tard threw away the lamp so I'm just stumbling along in the dark!
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:04 am Post subject: |
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mmmmm!
Yummy slurpy skiing 
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Mitch
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| J wrote: |
...more dangerous than may seem obvious.... The problem is a fall on a 30* slope doesn't just end up with a plop in the powder like winter conditions. Often even a moderate fall on corn can result in a 50-100ft slide. As Big T's photo shows a slide for 50 feet could easily result in a rock wall slam, a crack fall or a cliff dive or... ...Skiing corn means considering consequences of a fall more fully. Where will you go??? … Just a note if novices are in the group: their ski reality may not be yours… |
Good points all around J, and thanks for bringing up this important topic.
It’s good to remember that while the objective hazards of winter touring, such as avy danger and hypothermia, are generally not present during the corn season, spring and summer skiing has its own risks, some of which can be considerable, and you have correctly identified what is perhaps the biggest danger of all. I took a memorable fall on Throop Peak about 20 years ago that resulted in a long slide and a “rock wall slam.” Fortunately I was able to self-arrest enough to get my skis below me and slow down a bit, the only thing that ended up broken was one of my beloved Volkls.
It was my last such fall/slide. Funny how those lessons stick with you. We’ve been enjoying this area around Saddlebag Lake for a very long time, and one of the great things for our crew has been introducing our kids to summer skiing up there.
Initially it was my son Neil, now 25, who first climbed Greenstone chutes with crampons and ice axe at the age of 10, skiing down in Ramers and his familiar alpine boots. Then it was Tim’s son Cory, now 20, in Greg & Paul’s chute at age 12. And now on this trip last week, Matt brought along his 9 year-old son Ryan, a cool kid who, while not quite ready for the steep and narrow hazards in upper Greg & Paul’s, was definitely psyched to make his first trip with dad and the boys.
Scouting things out the weekend before, I found nice snow for Ryan and Matt at this perfect play area on the way up to our chute.
We said goodbye to them, pulling away as they worked on building a kicker on the almost flat run-out. When we passed back through on our way back to the dock, we saw their tracks, sweet S-s in the soft corn. We could also see that they had started lower, working their way up to steeper terrain as Ryan’s confidence grew with experience.
So this was our approach to deciding where to ski and dealing with the novice factor. At the end of the day everybody was smiling big-time. We got our turns in Greg and Paul’s, and Matt was one very happy and proud dad. Best of all, Ryan was totally stoked and could hardly wait to go again. |
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seki
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:21 am Post subject: |
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You guys suck....
I remember that "play area", Mitch. You, me, and Neil had a pretty sweet time there if memory serves. Good to see another yungin getting some of that with you. |
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E.J. Howitt
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| Mitch wrote: | | At the end of the day everybody was smiling big-time. We got our turns in Greg and Paul’s, and Matt was one very happy and proud dad. Best of all, Ryan was totally stoked and could hardly wait to go again. |
Love this.
What it's all about. |
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teleloaf
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| outstanding.... |
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robrox
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Location: following Diogenes, but the ba$tard threw away the lamp so I'm just stumbling along in the dark!
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| E.J. Howitt wrote: | | Mitch wrote: | | At the end of the day everybody was smiling big-time. We got our turns in Greg and Paul’s, and Matt was one very happy and proud dad. Best of all, Ryan was totally stoked and could hardly wait to go again. |
Love this.
What it's all about. |
Yessir, that it is!
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