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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:12 pm Post subject: Zimmerman vs. Martin
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In a video released Wednesday, former neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman walks the scene where he shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, describing for police what he said happened that night.
Zimmerman said to police in the video that he fired a single shot after Martin wrestled him to the grass and began banging his head repeatedly into concrete.
“It felt like my head was going to explode,” Zimmerman said, “and I thought I was going to lose consciousness.”
The video was filmed the day after Zimmerman shot Martin. The footage shows two butterfly bandages on the back of Zimmerman's head and apparent bruises on his face.
In the video, released by defense attorney Mark O’Mara, Zimmerman walked through two rows of beige homes in the gated community of Sanford, Fla. He told police he had seen Trayvon walking the same path but lost sight of him. Then, Zimmerman said, Trayvon reappeared behind him and to his left.
“He yelled ... ‘Yo, you got a problem?’” Zimmerman said. “I said, ‘No, I don’t have a problem, man.’ … I looked down at my pants pocket, and he said, ‘You’ve got a problem now.’”
“And then he was here,” Zimmerman said, gesturing beside him, “and he punched me in the face.”
As the two wrestled on the grass, Martin sat on top of Zimmerman and began banging his head into concrete, Zimmerman said. Zimmerman said he began yelling for help. Someone opened their door and said they would call 911.
Then, Zimmerman said his jacket slid up, revealing the gun holstered on his right side.
“[Martin] said, ‘You’re going to die tonight ...,’” Zimmerman said. “He reached for it. I felt his arm going down by my side … I just grabbed my firearm and I shot him. One time.”
“… I didn’t think I hit him, because he sat up,” Zimmerman said. “He said, ‘You got me,’ ‘You got it,’ something like that. I thought he was saying, ‘I know you have a gun now, I heard it, I’m giving up.’”
Zimmerman said he pushed Martin down, sat on top of him and moved his arms apart. Then, someone arrived with a flashlight, he said. Police arrived shortly thereafter and put Zimmerman in handcuffs.
Although he was handcuffed that night, Zimmerman was not charged. The Sanford Police Department came under fire for how the investigation was handled, leading to Police Chief Bill Lee’s firing Tuesday night.
At the end of the video, Zimmerman falls silent.
“Any questions?” the officer in the frame asks.
“I don’t have any,” the voice behind the camera responded.
Kind of the way I would have expected it to go. The guy will probably be convicted, he is already guilty in many eyes.
“He yelled ... ‘Yo, you got a problem?’” Zimmerman said. “I said, ‘No, I don’t have a problem, man.’ … I looked down at my pants pocket, and he said, ‘You’ve got a problem now.’”
“And then he was here,” Zimmerman said, gesturing beside him, “and he punched me in the face.”
As the two wrestled on the grass, Martin sat on top of Zimmerman and began banging his head into concrete, Zimmerman said. Zimmerman said he began yelling for help. Someone opened their door and said they would call 911.
Then, Zimmerman said his jacket slid up, revealing the gun holstered on his right side.
“[Martin] said, ‘You’re going to die tonight ...,’” Zimmerman said. “He reached for it. I felt his arm going down by my side … I just grabbed my firearm and I shot him. One time.”
“… I didn’t think I hit him, because he sat up,” Zimmerman said. “He said, ‘You got me,’ ‘You got it,’ something like that. I thought he was saying, ‘I know you have a gun now, I heard it, I’m giving up.’”
Zimmerman said he pushed Martin down, sat on top of him and moved his arms apart. Then, someone arrived with a flashlight, he said. Police arrived shortly thereafter and put Zimmerman in handcuffs.
If Martin said that Zimmerman "was going to die tonight", after punching him and slamming his head, the bullet was a reasonable solution. _________________ "She said, Boy, without a doubt, have to quit your mess and straighten out...you could die down here, be just another accident statistic."
The problem Mr. Zimmerman encountered was a thug under the influence assaulting him thoroughly.
The solution, to protect his own life, was to kill the assailant.
If that's what happened, then that's justifiable.
If it's not what happened..... _________________ "She said, Boy, without a doubt, have to quit your mess and straighten out...you could die down here, be just another accident statistic."
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:51 pm Post subject:
risk.reduction wrote:
Whatever you want to call it.
The problem Mr. Zimmerman encountered was a thug under the influence assaulting him thoroughly.
The solution, to protect his own life, was to kill the assailant.
If that's what happened, then that's justifiable.
If it's not what happened.....
You have absolutely no information to judge that Zimmerman wasn't the drugged up assaulter. We do know that he was directed by the 9-11 operator to not follow Martin. It does sound as though he was getting his ass kicked but there is every reason to believe that he started it.
According to his autopsy report Martin was 17 years old, 5 feet 11 inches tall and weighed 158 pounds, Zimmerman weighs over 200. What kind of pussy has to pull a gun and shoot just because he is getting his ass kicked by a kid he outweighs by 50 lbs, in the middle of suburbia no less. According to Zimmerman's call the kid already ran away once, why didn't Zimmerman just say "the cops are coming" and watch the kid scamper.
Aside from Marin's race, how was he a thug?
"Dressing like a thug" sounds like the same defense as she "dressed up like a slut" in a rape case neither one makes rape or murder defensible.
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:05 pm Post subject:
French For Cant Tele wrote:
risk.reduction wrote:
Whatever you want to call it.
The problem Mr. Zimmerman encountered was a thug under the influence assaulting him thoroughly.
The solution, to protect his own life, was to kill the assailant.
If that's what happened, then that's justifiable.
If it's not what happened.....
You have absolutely no information to judge that Zimmerman wasn't the drugged up assaulter.
Have you watched the video? In your honest opinion does it look like Zimmerman is telling the truth?
I think if Zimmerman was drugged up the cops would have figured that out at the scene. _________________ Il n'y a que moi qui a toujours raison.
BF's French lady.
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:50 pm Post subject:
Regardless of whether Zimmerman is guilty, there wouldn't have been any death if he hadn't been carrying a gun. Unless one thinks it is good that Martin was killed, this is the main lesson here, as far as I am concerned. _________________ "It's what you learn after you know it all that counts" Earl Weaver
there wouldn't have been any death if he hadn't been carrying a gun.
What if Mr. Martin continued to pound Mr. Zimmerman's head into the ground until he hemmoraged to death? _________________ "She said, Boy, without a doubt, have to quit your mess and straighten out...you could die down here, be just another accident statistic."
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:22 pm Post subject:
risk.reduction wrote:
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there wouldn't have been any death if he hadn't been carrying a gun.
What if Mr. Martin continued to pound Mr. Zimmerman's head into the ground until he hemmoraged to death?
Zimmerman chased the kid down after the kid ran away from him, got his ass kicked and instead of covering up and yelling for help or pistol whipping the kid or shooting the kid in the leg he shot an unarmed kid who was smaller than him center mass.
We all have the 2nd amendment right to have a weapon, there is no right to use that weapon to kill someone just because they are kicking your ass. Once again, according to Zimmerman's 911 call the kid ran away from him before Zimmerman caught up to him again. It doesn't seem like a stretch to think that the kid was afraid of him. Maybe he did jump Zimmerman after this armed guy tracked him down, can you blame him?
What kind of coward shoots an unarmed 17 year old? So what if you are getting your ass kicked, you are in the middle of suburbia, the cops have been called, and you have a fukkin gun, what a cowardly bitch. The second amendment does not give you the right to shoot someone anymore than a drivers license give you the right to run someone over.
The vast majority of gun owners are are responsible but a few are just cowards who can't defend themselves, lose in a fight that they start or even run away, they have to be the tuff guy who brandished a gun and in this case he used it. _________________
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:32 pm Post subject:
French For Cant Tele wrote:
risk.reduction wrote:
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there wouldn't have been any death if he hadn't been carrying a gun.
What if Mr. Martin continued to pound Mr. Zimmerman's head into the ground until he hemmoraged to death?
Zimmerman chased the kid down after the kid ran away from him, got his ass kicked and instead of covering up and yelling for help or pistol whipping the kid or shooting the kid in the leg he shot an unarmed kid who was smaller than him center mass.
We all have the 2nd amendment right to have a weapon, there is no right to use that weapon to kill someone just because they are kicking your ass. Once again, according to Zimmerman's 911 call the kid ran away from him before Zimmerman caught up to him again. It doesn't seem like a stretch to think that the kid was afraid of him. Maybe he did jump Zimmerman after this armed guy tracked him down, can you blame him?
What kind of coward shoots an unarmed 17 year old? So what if you are getting your ass kicked, you are in the middle of suburbia, the cops have been called, and you have a fukkin gun, what a cowardly bitch.
So if you are packing and some dude decides to beat your ass at what point do you decide, Humm I think the next one will be the coup de grâce, I better blow his brains out right umm umm umm... NOW bang!
Honestly if I'm packing and some jack ass cracks me in the head, I'm gonna pop a cap in his ass right now. _________________ Il n'y a que moi qui a toujours raison.
BF's French lady.
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