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TeleAl

Joined: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 5757 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| freeheelwilly wrote: | | There was a "serious" discussion several years ago in here about how most of the Gitmo detainees were "innocent goat farmers". Own it. |
Most were apparently innocent.
Own it. _________________ You give us what we want in a week, or we beat the hell out of you and take it anyway.
--Anacreon message, roughly translated by Mayor Hardin |
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aglandau
Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 478 Location: PACA
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Done ! Finally. That glaring eyesore on the American landscape and source of so much national embarrassment is finally closed. Would you believe it ?
Read about it here :
Office Working to Close Guantánamo Is Shuttered |
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aglandau
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rsireland3

Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 17779 Location: EL/R -6.12, SL/A -8.15 in NW VT and slightly south of the Poutine Curtain
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Patriot who should not be jailed. Travesty. _________________
| rl wrote: | | Kinda like post first then smoke crack |
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rsireland3

Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 17779 Location: EL/R -6.12, SL/A -8.15 in NW VT and slightly south of the Poutine Curtain
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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The real embarrassment and eyesore is being left open. _________________
| rl wrote: | | Kinda like post first then smoke crack |
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jellero

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 6382 Location: Ironton, Boyne City, Charlevoix, East Jordan, Salida
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:32 am Post subject: |
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| Sugarloafer wrote: | | aglandau wrote: | I'd like to hear your reasons for wanting the prison complex closed Sugarloafer.
Do you judge it to be immoral ? Illegal ? Innefective ? Do you think it brings resentment towards America and motivates resistance movements ?
Maybe you believe the bay was obtained via extortion and rightfully belongs to Cuba. |
Nah.....Every once in a while, I just like to remind the peanut gallery in here that closing Gitmo was one of the first things Obama was going to do.  |
i haven't read this whole thread but you are such a dumbass loaf. your republican congress won't let "him".
do a little research. j
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/11/30/congress-goes-head-to-head-with-obama-on-guantanamo-bay
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freeheelwilly
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 8569 Location: on your nerves....
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| jellero wrote: | | Sugarloafer wrote: | | aglandau wrote: | I'd like to hear your reasons for wanting the prison complex closed Sugarloafer.
Do you judge it to be immoral ? Illegal ? Innefective ? Do you think it brings resentment towards America and motivates resistance movements ?
Maybe you believe the bay was obtained via extortion and rightfully belongs to Cuba. |
Nah.....Every once in a while, I just like to remind the peanut gallery in here that closing Gitmo was one of the first things Obama was going to do.  |
i haven't read this whole thread but you are such a dumbass loaf. your republican congress won't let "him".
do a little research. j |
The scary thing is, Jellohead actually believes this. |
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jellero

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 6382 Location: Ironton, Boyne City, Charlevoix, East Jordan, Salida
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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i know computers are confusing to some but if you type in "guantanamo congress" where it says "google" you get something like this-
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=guantanamo+congress&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
congress has blocked everything obama has come up with concerning guantanamo and everything else, then come around and blame him for not getting anything done, exactly like this thread has done and i am getting sick of it. meanwhile, the country rots away. if obama wanted to paint the whitehouse white, congress would block that. you righties are absolutely amazing in your self made bubble of ignorance and pomp. j |
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freeheelwilly
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 8569 Location: on your nerves....
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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I did that Jellohead. Here's what ! found:
| Quote: | | But in 2009, Senate Democrats, led by Reid, cut off money to close Guantanamo, frustrating Obama's early plans to transfer prisoners there to the United States. |
That came from this article which I found using your Google search.
The truth is, it's not one party or another; neither party supports this idea, for all sorts of reasons.
You're a fucking idiot. |
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jellero

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 6382 Location: Ironton, Boyne City, Charlevoix, East Jordan, Salida
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:56 am Post subject: |
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you found one instance of the senate blocking obama instead of congress blocking him, so that supports loaf's and your insistence that it's all obama's fault that guantanamo is still open. interesting logic, you must be republicans!!!  |
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Sugarloafer

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:15 am Post subject: |
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| jellero wrote: | you found one instance of the senate blocking obama instead of congress blocking him, so that supports loaf's and your insistence that it's all obama's fault that guantanamo is still open. interesting logic, you must be republicans!!!  |
So, during his 2008 campaign, instead of promising to close Gitmo first thing, he should have said something like ..."I'll try to close Gitmo if I can get approval" ? Seems like a much different message.  _________________ "Take it from a member of the male species, walking around in public with an erection is somewhat of an embarrassment unless you are a bit..... off"........Bunion |
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jellero

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 6382 Location: Ironton, Boyne City, Charlevoix, East Jordan, Salida
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:10 am Post subject: |
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you will have a lot more fun if you pm hillbilly. obama said first thing he would do was close guantanamo? wrong, post a source. i also know he did not expect the repubs to block everything he tried to do.
are you saying every site i posted was lying? i'm done with this, it is a non discussion, research before posting. |
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Neckbert
Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 2229 Location: Nor Cal
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:24 am Post subject: |
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Beiber Obama is such a faker.
He lip synch'ed his promise to close Gitmo and all his fans cheered.
Then he quietly issued an executive order in 2011 making indefinite detention his official policy.
And the media said nothing.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/Executive_Order_on_Periodic_Review.pdf
The detainees deserve a quick military trial and closure.
The Geneva Conventions and Habeus Corpus definitely do not apply to illegal enemy combatants in any way.
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jellero

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 6382 Location: Ironton, Boyne City, Charlevoix, East Jordan, Salida
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:41 am Post subject: |
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"And the media said nothing."
where did you hear this if the media said nothing?
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robrox

Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 17873 Location: following Diogenes, but the ba$tard threw away the lamp so I'm just stumbling along in the dark!
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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In spite of where/how the Dems seem to be standing now, there is a good chance ( 75% ? ) they will screw things up just as badly in the last two years of the Obama Admin as they did in the first two years. _________________ "Moderate is not the new Low" - Chris Joosen, USFS Lead Snow Ranger (Tuckerman Ravine, White Mountains National Forest) |
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