Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:24 pm Post subject: Sarah Palin was right . . .
Obama does pal around with terrorists:
Exclusive - The Vetting - Senator Barack Obama Attended Bill Ayers Barbecue, July 4, 2005
"We now have proof that Obama's association with Ayers continued even after Obama had been elected to represent Illinois in the U.S. Senate--in the form of a now-scrubbed blog post placing Obama at the home of Ayers and his wife, fellow radical Bernadine Dohrn, on July 4, 2005."
I always heard the name Bill Ayers in a negative context but never really paid much attention. Sounds too much like the Hillary Clinton killed Bill Foster nonsense. Then I googled Ayers' name and for the first time realized what the fuss is about:
Bill Ayers was a cofounder of The Weather Underground, perhaps the most notorious domestic terror group of the 60s and 70s. After issuing a declaration of war on the United States, these people bombed the US Capitol building, the Pentagon, numerous other government buildings, along with several banks, and when their 1969 Days of Rage campaign failed to involve thousands of youth in massive street fighting as they'd hoped, they issued a public manifesto strongly advocating violent revolution:
"The only path to the final defeat of imperialism and the building of socialism is revolutionary war."... "Socialism is the violent overthrow of the bourgeoisie, the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and the eradication of the social system based on profit."... Revolutionary war will be complicated and protracted.... It includes mass struggle and clandestine struggle, peaceful and violent, political and economic, cultural and military, where all forms are developed in harmony with the armed struggle. Without mass struggle there can be no revolution. Without armed struggle there can be no victory."
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject:
Ayers and his wife were admitted domestic terrorists, once captured, the government dropped all charges. Ayers, then gets a state job, will probably get a state pension, citizenship awards and eventually has tea and crumpets with all kinds of the political elite.
Of course at the time we had a criminal vice president and a soon to be resigned or else impeached president. Good thing the ex mayor of wassilla and failed governor of Alaska is on the trail.... Only in America….
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:49 pm Post subject:
Uh Jon, Obama was a kid at the time of the Weather Underground, so he obviously had nothing to do with it. Obama's came to be associated with Ayers because Ayers, during the time period when Obama was an adult, was active in Chicago politics, primarily in the public education arena.
Stop inhaling Repug propaganda; it kills brain cells.
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:52 pm Post subject:
bobskiing wrote:
Uh Jon, Obama was a kid at the time of the Weather Underground, so he obviously had nothing to do with it. Obama's came to be associated with Ayers because Ayers, during the time period when Obama was an adult, was active in Chicago politics, primarily in the public education arena.
Stop inhaling Repug propaganda; it kills brain cells.
Uh Jon, Obama was a kid at the time of the Weather Underground, so he obviously had nothing to do with it. Obama's came to be associated with Ayers because Ayers, during the time period when Obama was an adult, was active in Chicago politics, primarily in the public education arena.
Stop inhaling Repug propaganda; it kills brain cells.
How are facts "propaganda", assface?
Settle down, spittle-boy.
Quote:
7. What does Obama say about Ayers?
During a primary debate, Obama underplayed his relationship with Ayers: "This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago, who I know, and who I have not received some official endorsement from," Obama said. "He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis. The notion that somehow, as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn't make much sense."
8. Is it fair for McCain to criticize Obama on this issue?
Factcheck.org has this take: "Voters may differ in how they see Ayers, or how they see Obama's interactions with him. We're making no judgment calls on those matters. What we object to are the McCain-Palin campaign's attempts to sway voters -- in ads and on the stump -- with false and misleading statements about the relationship, which was never very close. And Ayers is more than a former 'terrorist,' he's also a well-known figure in the field of education."
Republican propaganda is still trying to get voters to think Ayers is some sort of formative influence and/or secret adviser to Obama. Pretty much textbook example of what propaganda is. _________________ "Now is not the time for sound-bites" - David Cameron
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:06 pm Post subject:
nils wrote:
freeheelwilly wrote:
bobskiing wrote:
Uh Jon, Obama was a kid at the time of the Weather Underground, so he obviously had nothing to do with it. Obama's came to be associated with Ayers because Ayers, during the time period when Obama was an adult, was active in Chicago politics, primarily in the public education arena.
Stop inhaling Repug propaganda; it kills brain cells.
How are facts "propaganda", assface?
Settle down, spittle-boy.
Quote:
7. What does Obama say about Ayers?
During a primary debate, Obama underplayed his relationship with Ayers: "This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago, who I know, and who I have not received some official endorsement from," Obama said. "He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis. The notion that somehow, as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn't make much sense."
8. Is it fair for McCain to criticize Obama on this issue?
Factcheck.org has this take: "Voters may differ in how they see Ayers, or how they see Obama's interactions with him. We're making no judgment calls on those matters. What we object to are the McCain-Palin campaign's attempts to sway voters -- in ads and on the stump -- with false and misleading statements about the relationship, which was never very close. And Ayers is more than a former 'terrorist,' he's also a well-known figure in the field of education."
Republican propaganda is still trying to get voters to think Ayers is some sort of formative influence and/or secret adviser to Obama. Pretty much textbook example of what propaganda is.
Nils, why is he picnicing with this piece of shit? And why is it so ridiculous to assume that, given their friendship/relationship -that seems to endure no matter the potential cost to Obama, the piece of shit might have some sort of inflluence on his thinking ? And influence or no, why would he socialize with a person like that?
Uh Jon, Obama was a kid at the time of the Weather Underground, so he obviously had nothing to do with it. Obama's came to be associated with Ayers because Ayers, during the time period when Obama was an adult, was active in Chicago politics, primarily in the public education arena.
Stop inhaling Repug propaganda; it kills brain cells.
You forgot the part where Obama launched his political career in Ayers' living room.
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:38 pm Post subject:
freeheelwilly wrote:
nils wrote:
freeheelwilly wrote:
bobskiing wrote:
Uh Jon, Obama was a kid at the time of the Weather Underground, so he obviously had nothing to do with it. Obama's came to be associated with Ayers because Ayers, during the time period when Obama was an adult, was active in Chicago politics, primarily in the public education arena.
Stop inhaling Repug propaganda; it kills brain cells.
How are facts "propaganda", assface?
Settle down, spittle-boy.
Quote:
7. What does Obama say about Ayers?
During a primary debate, Obama underplayed his relationship with Ayers: "This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago, who I know, and who I have not received some official endorsement from," Obama said. "He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis. The notion that somehow, as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn't make much sense."
8. Is it fair for McCain to criticize Obama on this issue?
Factcheck.org has this take: "Voters may differ in how they see Ayers, or how they see Obama's interactions with him. We're making no judgment calls on those matters. What we object to are the McCain-Palin campaign's attempts to sway voters -- in ads and on the stump -- with false and misleading statements about the relationship, which was never very close. And Ayers is more than a former 'terrorist,' he's also a well-known figure in the field of education."
Republican propaganda is still trying to get voters to think Ayers is some sort of formative influence and/or secret adviser to Obama. Pretty much textbook example of what propaganda is.
Nils, why is he picnicing with this piece of shit? And why is it so ridiculous to assume that, given their friendship/relationship -that seems to endure no matter the potential cost to Obama, the piece of shit might have some sort of inflluence on his thinking ? And influence or no, why would he socialize with a person like that?
My thoughts exactly, why is Obama even talking to this hypocritical piece of trash? If Ayers would have had his way, his boot would have firmly planted on the future Obama’s neck.
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:26 pm Post subject:
Ayers methods were deeply despicable.
But his stance on the Vietnam war was dead on correct. _________________ “at core, men are afraid women will laugh at them, while at core, women are afraid men will kill them. And probably because they deserve it."
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