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chemman
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 Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 9:50 pm Post subject: Beginning of the end of Creationism |
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Soon we will be able to close the chapter of the debate of evolution.
Creationism will soon be left in the past.
Good bye and good ridden.
Only bible thumping cretins will think in terms of creation from now on.
| Quote: | NEW YORK (AP) — Richard Leakey predicts skepticism over evolution will soon be history.
Not that the avowed atheist has any doubts himself.
Sometime in the next 15 to 30 years, the Kenyan-born paleoanthropologist expects scientific discoveries will have accelerated to the point that "even the skeptics can accept it." |
Damn it, he was next door when Obama was born.
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 1:15 am Post subject: |
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| It won't make any difference. If you didn't arrive at your beliefs through evidence and reason, then evidence isn't going to make you change your mind. |
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| There will always be humans who view science as religion. They are ripe for picking. |
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French For Cant Tele
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 3:50 am Post subject: |
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I have never understood how people who believe in a Christian god would favor the second hand word of god (the bible) over the very the straightforward direct evidence of the fossil record (the direct work of god).
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 6:31 am Post subject: |
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More like:
Beginning of the End of Optimism.
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| French For Cant Tele wrote: | | I have never understood how people who believe in a Christian god would favor the second hand word of god (the bible) over the very the straightforward direct evidence of the fossil record (the direct work of god). |
Because all scripture is God breathed. What is in doubt is finite man's comprehension of an infinite creator.
| Stephen Hawking wrote: | | The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. |
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French For Cant Tele
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| JustinB wrote: | | French For Cant Tele wrote: | | I have never understood how people who believe in a Christian god would favor the second hand word of god (the bible) over the very the straightforward direct evidence of the fossil record (the direct work of god). |
Because all scripture is God breathed. What is in doubt is finite man's comprehension of an infinite creator.
| Stephen Hawking wrote: | | The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. |
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And the fossil record isn't? You don't just stack layers of creatures on top of each other where they gradually change into different forms and then tell people not to believe in evolution, what kind of joker would pull that kind of stunt?
Since there are many translations, many interpretations, many excluded apocrypha, resulting in different practices among Christians all over the world, the fossil record seems a bit more straightforward.
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chemman
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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I just love when somebody explains a topic by saying, "Oh it is so so so complicated, you will never understand it"
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LeapinGnome
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Stephen Hawking wrote:
The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. |
I believe that Daniel Boorstin wrote:
| Quote: | | The greatest obstacle to discovering the shape of the earth, the continents and the ocean was not ignorance but the illusion of knowledge. |
He went on:
| Quote: | | "I have observed that the world has suffered far less from ignorance than from pretensions to knowledge. It is not skeptics or explorers but fanatics and ideologues who menace decency and progress. ." |
Hawking was probably paraphrasing Boorstin.
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:46 am Post subject: |
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| Norman Fischer has an interesting perspective. Not about creationism, per se, but about religion/spirituality through the view of "The Odyssey". |
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| chemman wrote: | I just love when somebody explains a topic by saying, "Oh it is so so so complicated, you will never understand it"
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What I smell
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| JustinB wrote: | | chemman wrote: | I just love when somebody explains a topic by saying, "Oh it is so so so complicated, you will never understand it"
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Arrogance is in the eye of the beholder.
Justin you have something stuck in your eye.
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chemman
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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I really didn't want to get too nasty but I have always had a problem with the infinite finite logic. Probably one of the main things about religion the totally shuts me down.
I believe there is a good enough understanding of the origin of the universe and evolution of life that no god is needed. And in fact if by some remote chance some god did exist he would just muck things up. I mean if the laws of physics dictate the state of the universe from beginning, now and in the end then where does god fit in?
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| JustinB wrote: | | chemman wrote: | I just love when somebody explains a topic by saying, "Oh it is so so so complicated, you will never understand it"
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ha! b/w pussy and a real BIG pussy
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| chemman wrote: | I really didn't want to get too nasty but I have always had a problem with the infinite finite logic. Probably one of the main things about religion the totally shuts me down.
I believe there is a good enough understanding of the origin of the universe and evolution of life that no god is needed. And in fact if by some remote chance some god did exist he would just muck things up. I mean if the laws of physics dictate the state of the universe from beginning, now and in the end then where does god fit in? |
If and when "science" can finally answer the question, "Why something rather than nothing ?", it's the end for religion.
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