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vdrifter11

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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:03 am Post subject: |
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<<<<<^^^^Some say it makes a fine soup base..so rich
in nutrients and all.. i dunno..a beer and a salad
will do me.. _________________ Speak and remove all doubt..
No one cares that you CAN'T tele! |
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skookumchuck
Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 9487 Location: Blue Canadian Rockies
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 2:55 am Post subject: |
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| stevesliva wrote: | | Afterbirthers. |
Thats good, steve. |
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stevesliva
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 3:18 am Post subject: |
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| Can't take credit for it. |
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TeleAl

Joined: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 5716 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 5:30 am Post subject: |
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Is it just me, or is this birther thing like those folks who go on about UFOs? _________________ You give us what we want in a week, or we beat the hell out of you and take it anyway.
--Anacreon message, roughly translated by Mayor Hardin |
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SteveK

Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 3356 Location: The bull's eye
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 5:35 am Post subject: |
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That's not fair . . .
. . . to people who go on about UFO's. _________________ I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with someone who is clearly unarmed. Target practice, on the other hand . . . |
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Degaine2
Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 1924
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:41 am Post subject: |
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Hi Laura,
You are a lawyer, correct?
There is no dispute that Obama is a natural born citizen, his mother was a US Citizen, so according to the US Constitution, Obama was a natural born citizen (should I write "at birth" or is that redundant?).
Honest question, why does it matter where he was born? McCain was not born within the boundaries of the United States, nor was Romney's father, yet both were considered legitimate (read legal) candidates according to the US Constitution.
Again, another honest question, could anyone who is a lawyer and who has even cursorily studied constitutional law point to a case or law that defines "natural born citizen" as one born within the borders of the 50 United States? |
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nils

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 7308 Location: tahoe
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| TeleAl wrote: | | Is it just me, or is this birther thing like those folks who go on about UFOs? |
Yep.
But it's not just harmless idiocy. It's hate-motivated, and has some similarities to the pernicious crap about the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'. _________________ "Now is not the time for sound-bites" - David Cameron
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stevesliva
Joined: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 10121 Location: SEA
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Degaine2 wrote: | Honest question, why does it matter where he was born? McCain was not born within the boundaries of the United States, nor was Romney's father, yet both were considered legitimate (read legal) candidates according to the US Constitution.
Again, another honest question, could anyone who is a lawyer and who has even cursorily studied constitutional law point to a case or law that defines "natural born citizen" as one born within the borders of the 50 United States? |
Our resident insane feminist like citing some version of federal immigration law that treated kids born to an american father different then kids born to an american mother. In other words, because his daddy wasn't american, it doesn't matter if his mom was-- only fathers were important. |
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Laura
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 3994
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Degaine2 wrote: | Hi Laura,
You are a lawyer, correct?
There is no dispute that Obama is a natural born citizen, his mother was a US Citizen, so according to the US Constitution, Obama was a natural born citizen (should I write "at birth" or is that redundant?).
Honest question, why does it matter where he was born? McCain was not born within the boundaries of the United States, nor was Romney's father, yet both were considered legitimate (read legal) candidates according to the US Constitution.
Again, another honest question, could anyone who is a lawyer and who has even cursorily studied constitutional law point to a case or law that defines "natural born citizen" as one born within the borders of the 50 United States? |
It matters where he was born because different sections of the Immigration and Nationality Act would apply.
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_5199.html
If Obama was born abroad, then the age of Obama's mother at the time she gave birth to him and how long she had resided in the US kicks in. This link explains the "age of mother" issue pretty good:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp
If you read both links, you will understand why it matters, unlike McCain, where Obama was born. |
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bobskiing

Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 2793 Location: Bay Area
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bobskiing

Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 2793 Location: Bay Area
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Laura wrote: | | So it's front page news to report on Romney's alleged bullying incident that happened over 40 years ago, but nothing to see here? No reason for a jounalist to investigate further? |
Victory over communism! The Wall Street Journal is hot on the story!!!
Oh yeah, "adults have a slightly different take on the issue":
| It's the Wall Street Journal, douchebag, wrote: | | If only the working title had been "Bow Wow Chow," it would be perfect. |
Oooh! Nailed him!
You're asleep at the wheel, 'loafer... time to get on board. WSJ, dude, "worthy of your consideration"! I've held back so you can have the glory of reposting the entire article in its own topic. Get on it! |
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Laura
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chemman

Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 5823 Location: Flying over the Earth poisoning you with chemtrails
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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What the afterbirther's want has finally been found!
(this thread is ridiculous) _________________ Il n'y a que moi qui a toujours raison.
BF's French lady.
http://cleardarksky.com/c/LkDllnObCokey.html |
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Bunion

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 5264 Location: 4-corners, NOT BOZEMAN!
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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You gonna finish that? _________________ “at core, men are afraid women will laugh at them, while at core, women are afraid men will kill them. And probably because they deserve it." |
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stevesliva
Joined: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 10121 Location: SEA
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| It's like the marrow, without the bone. Soup? |
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