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robrox



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron_wright wrote:
robrox wrote:
Bullet Proof glass seems to encourage stone throwers...
What does this mean? ....
It meant that I think folks feel safer to behave badly when they are protected from return fire. Not very original thinking, I'm afraid, but adressed to the problems being illustrated in the OP.

The phrase "People who live in glass houses should not throw stones" was long used to advise against casting aspersions. It appears to me that the interwebz have created a sort of "bullet-proof glass" just right for making that old-fashioned advice obsolete. I am disinclined to consider the good advices of former days as obsolete.

My Bullet Proof glass remark was more general commentary than regarding any recent or former jibes pointed at me. Btw, I do mean that. Sure, some jibes find their mark, but mainly I let them go pretty quick. As the Bard points out, stewing in it is no good to anybody.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

E.J. Howitt wrote:
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you forgot smoking crack and hair-band music; those really fvcked us up!


And Traci Lords.


THAT'S a skank....
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robrox wrote:
aaron_wright wrote:
robrox wrote:
Bullet Proof glass seems to encourage stone throwers...
What does this mean? ....
It meant that I think folks feel safer to behave badly when they are protected from return fire. Not very original thinking, I'm afraid, but adressed to the problems being illustrated in the OP.

The phrase "People who live in glass houses should not throw stones" was long used to advise against casting aspersions. It appears to me that the interwebz have created a sort of "bullet-proof glass" just right for making that old-fashioned advice obsolete. I am disinclined to consider the good advices of former days as obsolete.

My Bullet Proof glass remark was more general commentary than regarding any recent or former jibes pointed at me. Btw, I do mean that. Sure, some jibes find their mark, but mainly I let them go pretty quick. As the Bard points out, stewing in it is no good to anybody.
Bullet proof glass wouldn't encourage people to throw stones, if people know it's bullet proof why would they bother? If the person behind the glass knows it's bullet proof and the stone throwers don't they will soon find out and stop throwing them. Horrible analogy.

A reference to Shakespeare, how original of you.

This is what willie was ranting about in his original post in this thread.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

granpa wrote:
because of what I've read on this forum I have consciously decided not to use or to replace my F1 beacon - for may reasons



Are you dialing back the terrain, not going out, or skiing the same just without a beacon?
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark wrote:
The big difference is all of us own skis and, well, ski. Most of the SA posters don't own boats. You can tell by the comments who doesn't. They're the ones with the least regard and biggest mouths about how to put together and run a boat sans the 'how to pay for it' part.


You've got some mad interwebz skills mark.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

never mind...
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SteveK - more like dialing back terrain....really its realizing that expertise in skiing does not make you an expert in avy prediction and making a conscious decision not to explore further terrain that is both skiable and accessible.

After reading some of the recommended avy books I realized that as little as I go out I will never have the expertise to predict avys....I'd be kidding myself and just rolling the dice

Do I still want go do it...you bet...we'll see what happens...this is just where I am now
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron_wright wrote:
... Horrible analogy....
Okay, fair enough, it was what came to mind at the time.

The OP and others make note of a trending to virtual attacks that seems to take place in forums. Many who write here have decried such as take place here. That's one of the main points of the thread.

Acting out usually takes place when the individual feels safest. Do the web forums draw out the undeveloped, providing them a safe place to act out?

If that's the case, I stand by the analogy.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

granpa wrote:
SteveK - more like dialing back terrain....really its realizing that expertise in skiing does not make you an expert in avy prediction and making a conscious decision not to explore further terrain that is both skiable and accessible.

After reading some of the recommended avy books I realized that as little as I go out I will never have the expertise to predict avys....I'd be kidding myself and just rolling the dice

Do I still want go do it...you bet...we'll see what happens...this is just where I am now


Thanks for the response.

Someone indicated that with the much fatter skis, skiing lower angle slopes is a lot of fun - can keep moving without sinking to a stop. I'm moving in that direction, the only thing is most of the nice mellow slopes still require travel through avvy terrain to get to them.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mitch wrote:
[Oh and Willy, what's your problem with Rob anyway. He seems like a nice enough guy to me. Is it the result of some animus you've developed for him in the WOT? If so I'd appreciate it if you would keep it down there. Thanks.


He's just trying to prove your point.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and I'm enjoying the evolving Mitch-Willy dialogue very much. Thank you!
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

freeheelwilly wrote:
aaron_wright wrote:
robrox wrote:
Bullet Proof glass seems to encourage stone throwers...
What does this mean? Does it mean you are surround by bullet proof glass, you're so enlightened that no one can touch you and everyone is jealous and takes shots at you? Most of the time I ignore your posts, but I have to agree with willy sometimes. Your posting can get annoying with all the subtle ego boosting name drops and references to how you used to be a pro cyclist and the nauseating prose about esoteric subjects interjected into threads that really have nothing to do with the subject. I don't get it. Some people eat that shit up, to me it gets annoying after a while. I bet you are a nice guy in person though, probably like most folks here, really, I mean it.


It's annoying but I sort of get a kick out of it because he's so predictable. His prose is turgid and self-impressed. Who writes like that? Who even WANTS to write like that? It's painful to read. Often he'll just capitalize what appear to be random words in a sentence, like he's channeling some 19th century philosopher. He's weird but willfully so. I think he does it it consciously and in an attempt to draw attention to himself and lend a certain weight and gravitas to his words that they don't deserve. That's why I don't feel bad about targeting him; he loves the attention. He tries to disguise his misplaced arrogance in this kindly, avuncular schtick but in the end he's just a blow hard with an oversized ego and too much time on his hands. I may be too, but I don't try to conceal it.


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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mitch wrote:
freeheelwilly wrote:
Yeah, Mitch, really.


Laughing

I know giys like you and I don't blame y'all for being a little bitter. Laughing

It must have sucked really bad to have come of age in the era of AIDS. I don't think I'm quite as old as Rob (sorry man) but just imagine what it must have been like for us, pre-AIDS, pre-Herpes even, and the pill had ushered in the coolest revolution in the history of revolutions.

Rob knows, and you can only imagine, poor poor angry Willie! Laughing

Next time you get to Mammoth give me a call, you still have my digits, I promise not to talk about it... Very Happy


Laughing Laughing Dude, nobody's jealous of your generation or era. Let's take stock:

Drugs: You had two kinds of weed, shitty and really shitty. The former you called "Sensimilla". It was overpriced crap but if you held the hit in long enough you might have caught a buzz from oxygen deprivation. The latter you called "Mexican". It looked like garden mulch and tasted like socks. If it had any THC in it, nobody ever noticed. (You also used really dumb drug terms like "Lid" and "Grass" but that's a topic for another day.)

Our pot, on the other hand, was The Bomb. Even the crap was 10x better than anything you ever stuffed in a pipe. And it was way cheaper.

When you guys were really gettin' stupid you'd drop a tab of "window pane" which more than likely was something some druid labbed up from Drain-O and engine degreaser in the back of an abandoned city bus. I'd rather stick my face in a wood chipper, to be perfectly honest.

We got 8-balls and ecstasy which invariably led to high speed romps on ridiculously over-powered Japanese crotch-rockets and threesomes with big titted, twin sisters who never bothered to tell us their names.

Music: You had some good stuff but it was all more than offset by bands like Iron Butterfly and The Moody Blues. I mean, The Moody Blues? Really? The country deserves an explanation.

We got Punk Rock and I really shouldn't have to say anything more. But I will! We also got Nirvana, Pearl Jam and The White Stripes. And you might think the Rolling Stones and Keith Richards belong to you - but they don't; we stole 'em while you were at one of your stupid sit-ins protesting Nixon and the Vietnam War and listening to Crosby, Stills and Nash. It wasn't even that hard, either. God, you guys were dumb.

Sex: I don't care how much you managed to have. That shit was dirty and had hair growing out of the most unfortunate locations. Plus, they were all a bunch self-loathers: They went to ridiculous lengths to act, dress and look like men. They thought that was "liberating". Be honest, how many times did you wake up and think: "Shit. I had sex with Bob last night."?

Our women enjoyed their femininity and let us enjoy it too. Plus they actually bathed.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL

I am in between both of you in age and I have found memories of lude parties (circa 1982)
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

freeheelwilly wrote:
Mitch wrote:
freeheelwilly wrote:
Yeah, Mitch, really.


Laughing

I know giys like you and I don't blame y'all for being a little bitter. Laughing

It must have sucked really bad to have come of age in the era of AIDS. I don't think I'm quite as old as Rob (sorry man) but just imagine what it must have been like for us, pre-AIDS, pre-Herpes even, and the pill had ushered in the coolest revolution in the history of revolutions.

Rob knows, and you can only imagine, poor poor angry Willie! Laughing

Next time you get to Mammoth give me a call, you still have my digits, I promise not to talk about it... Very Happy


Laughing Laughing Dude, nobody's jealous of your generation or era. Let's take stock:

Drugs: You had two kinds of weed, shitty and really shitty. The former you called "Sensimilla". It was overpriced crap but if you held the hit in long enough you might have caught a buzz from oxygen deprivation. The latter you called "Mexican". It looked like garden mulch and tasted like socks. If it had any THC in it, nobody ever noticed. (You also used really dumb drug terms like "Lid" and "Grass" but that's a topic for another day.)

Our pot, on the other hand, was The Bomb. Even the crap was 10x better than anything you ever stuffed in a pipe. And it was way cheaper.

When you guys were really gettin' stupid you'd drop a tab of "window pane" which more than likely was something some druid labbed up from Drain-O and engine degreaser in the back of an abandoned city bus. I'd rather stick my face in a wood chipper, to be perfectly honest.

We got 8-balls and ecstasy which invariably led to high speed romps on ridiculously over-powered Japanese crotch-rockets and threesomes with big titted, twin sisters who never bothered to tell us their names.

Music: You had some good stuff but it was all more than offset by bands like Iron Butterfly and The Moody Blues. I mean, The Moody Blues? Really? The country deserves an explanation.

We got Punk Rock and I really shouldn't have to say anything more. But I will! We also got Nirvana, Pearl Jam and The White Stripes. And you might think the Rolling Stones and Keith Richards belong to you - but they don't; we stole 'em while you were at one of your stupid sit-ins protesting Nixon and the Vietnam War and listening to Crosby, Stills and Nash. It wasn't even that hard, either. God, you guys were dumb.

Sex: I don't care how much you managed to have. That shit was dirty and had hair growing out of the most unfortunate locations. Plus, they were all a bunch self-loathers: They went to ridiculous lengths to act, dress and look like men. They thought that was "liberating". Be honest, how many times did you wake up and think: "Shit. I had sex with Bob last night."?

Our women enjoyed their femininity and let us enjoy it too. Plus they actually bathed.

He has to be trolling - "we got Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and the White Stripes"? Laughing
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