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Goombay

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 366
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a good video to watch that show them tipping the bike to carve and also shows when to turn the bars to slowly menuever around trees and obsticles. Watch on the carves how they tip the bike, keep the body over the tires and really imprtant turn with the hips.
http://vimeo.com/24062077 _________________ Bite off more than you can chew...and then chew like hell. |
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bbense

Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 7703 Location: Berkeley, CA /Tahoe
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robrox

Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 17738 Location: following Diogenes, but the ba$tard threw away the lamp so I'm just stumbling along in the dark!
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| bbense wrote: | | http://www.terrycolon.com/1features/bike.html | Ahh...yess, drivers ed without the Bob Bondurant type real-world-conditions, advanced-technique training.
Just for gigles:
http://www.wimp.com/incrediblelap/ _________________ "Moderate is not the new Low" - Chris Joosen, USFS Lead Snow Ranger (Tuckerman Ravine, White Mountains National Forest) |
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VTnCO
Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 648 Location: Republic of Boulder
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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For the true carving (not drifting the rear tire - also a good skill to have) I find key is keeping your hips and body over the bike as much as possible and KEEPING BOTH FEET ON THE PEDALS. You want all body weight on the tires for grip. You also need to apply forward pressure on the front wheel entering the turn. Grip and commitment are everything.
A great vid of bike handling in the mud from last years worlds. Notice how much he stays on both pedals even considering how muddy it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilqCro2MVU |
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benny
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2866 Location: NY
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="VTnCO"
A great vid of bike handling in the mud from last years worlds. Notice how much he stays on both pedals even considering how muddy it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilqCro2MVU[/quote]
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jfeller
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| bbense wrote: | | http://www.terrycolon.com/1features/bike.html |
Booker - Do you know this "Terry Colon"? A lot of the purported physics and purported economics on his site are B.S. |
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twopass
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 6527 Location: Behind the wheel
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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That's too easy. They should make those guys race on fully rigid frames.
And why does he keep lifting his left hand off the bar? Is he flipping off the spectators or what?
Anyways, after watching the above vid last night while it was pissin' rain on an already saturated landscape I went out to my local mtn. today thinkin' "I'm gonna' ride just like in that video..."
Didn't go quite as smoothly as I envisioned.  _________________ DUCKBILLS FOREVER!
"Always remember, a cat looks down on man, a dog looks up to man, but a pig will look man right in the eye and see his equal." |
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Peter C

Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 530 Location: stuck in a lab
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:34 am Post subject: |
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just as a warning to all, unclip if you're uncertain about washing out in a corner....
I was an idiot this evening and didn't and now I have orders to not put any weight on my right ankle and see and orthopedic surgeon tomorrow. Yay!!!  |
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robrox

Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 17738 Location: following Diogenes, but the ba$tard threw away the lamp so I'm just stumbling along in the dark!
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| twopass wrote: | ...
And why does he keep lifting his left hand off the bar? Is he flipping off the spectators or what?
Anyways, after watching the above vid last night while it was pissin' rain on an already saturated landscape I went out to my local mtn. today thinkin' "I'm gonna' ride just like in that video..."
Didn't go quite as smoothly as I envisioned.  | He might be using tear-offs over his goggles.
Could be nice to see where one is going in a mess like that. _________________ "Moderate is not the new Low" - Chris Joosen, USFS Lead Snow Ranger (Tuckerman Ravine, White Mountains National Forest) |
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robrox

Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 17738 Location: following Diogenes, but the ba$tard threw away the lamp so I'm just stumbling along in the dark!
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:40 am Post subject: |
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| Peter C wrote: | just as a warning to all, unclip if you're uncertain about washing out in a corner....
I was an idiot this evening and didn't and now I have orders to not put any weight on my right ankle and see and orthopedic surgeon tomorrow. Yay!!!  | Yikes Good luck with your recovery! _________________ "Moderate is not the new Low" - Chris Joosen, USFS Lead Snow Ranger (Tuckerman Ravine, White Mountains National Forest) |
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Peter C

Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 530 Location: stuck in a lab
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| robrox wrote: | | Peter C wrote: | just as a warning to all, unclip if you're uncertain about washing out in a corner....
I was an idiot this evening and didn't and now I have orders to not put any weight on my right ankle and see and orthopedic surgeon tomorrow. Yay!!!  | Yikes Good luck with your recovery! |
Thanks, pins and a plate on friday, means no cast which is nice I guess.... Oh well, at least skiing is mostly done |
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robrox

Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 17738 Location: following Diogenes, but the ba$tard threw away the lamp so I'm just stumbling along in the dark!
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| Peter C wrote: | | robrox wrote: | | Peter C wrote: | just as a warning to all, unclip if you're uncertain about washing out in a corner....
I was an idiot this evening and didn't and now I have orders to not put any weight on my right ankle and see and orthopedic surgeon tomorrow. Yay!!!  | Yikes Good luck with your recovery! |
Thanks, pins and a plate on friday, means no cast which is nice I guess.... Oh well, at least skiing is mostly done | What is it, PT stating PDQ? At least there is a bright side, now you can have fun with metal detectors at airports and courthouses... _________________ "Moderate is not the new Low" - Chris Joosen, USFS Lead Snow Ranger (Tuckerman Ravine, White Mountains National Forest) |
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VTnCO
Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 648 Location: Republic of Boulder
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| Bummer about the ankle. Hopefully it will be back in shape for the fall riding season. Heal up quick. |
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robrox

Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 17738 Location: following Diogenes, but the ba$tard threw away the lamp so I'm just stumbling along in the dark!
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:43 am Post subject: |
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I rewatched the Worlds viddy of Danny Hall's run. The Announcers refer to "pull offs" on a couple of occasions. I call them "tear offs" but they are a big help on muddy days, by either name:
They do wind up as rubbish/litter on competition courses, but there's usually not much trouble to shove them into a pocket on casual rides. _________________ "Moderate is not the new Low" - Chris Joosen, USFS Lead Snow Ranger (Tuckerman Ravine, White Mountains National Forest) |
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Peter C

Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 530 Location: stuck in a lab
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| robrox wrote: | | What is it, PT stating PDQ? At least there is a bright side, now you can have fun with metal detectors at airports and courthouses... |
Met with the ortho yesterday, he took an xray while stressing the joint and didn't like what he saw (too large a gap) so preparations have been made for surgery. Apparently at the first post-op apt ( couple days later) I'm supposed to bring my boot/brace thing as I'm going to be put back into that. Given how wonderfully fun casts are over the long term I'm not going to complain...
Thanks for the thoughts! |
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