For a person who prides them self on their use of the English language you have a funny way with your word choice.
vdrifter11 wrote:
led me to take a much deeper and closer look @ the subject.
What this really means is you scoured the internet for vids showing DPP and found one article That briefly mentions DPP.
vdrifter11 wrote:
"forbidden" move seemed to be fairly common in "bad" snow".
In Ron speak this really means this.
vdrifter11 wrote:
Meaning "not hard at all to find skiers using it.
vdrifter11 wrote:
that the people in Mordegal take a very relaxed view of DPP.
You know this by watching one video produced in Norway.
FWIW I have been to two clinics this year where the topic was foreign countries teaching and skiing techniques. The topics were brought home by the National Team from the Euro Inter ski. The countries represented in the segments I went to were US, Canada, Australia, Finland, Norway, Sweden and Poland. Funny how the DPP never came up and to be blunt I am glad I ski and learn in the US.
1) You have no idea what I have done or not..In any case , you really should not question my computer skills. And I have come across quite a number of articles, often by alpine instructors who are convinced they know just as much as you--FK! Imagine that! 2) You asked me what I meant by "fairly common"; I told you..So you whine? Good job! 3) You would think the good skiers of Mordegal would pay more attention to TTIPS! They don't seem to care. You should call the people running that resort in Mordegal, James! Set them straight ! 4) Pulling your authority card gets old..fast..so the topic never came up @ Your meetings..So what ? You Wanna argue DPP with an "expert", contact the author of this article! Cheers..
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:06 pm Post subject:
Someone mentioned something a few months ago and I was curious to find out if it was true. I know the answer but thought I would play a long for a while. Even I have my limits. Since as I say I know the answer this is a rhetorical question.
Do you always have to respond and have the last word no matter how often you repeat your self.
Then why ask? Other than to prove your "awesome"!!
You're...
Your DPP photo can't help you with grammar. Do you have it framed in your bedroom?
You're nothing if not persistent in your ignorance.
Hey stupid..I meant what I wrote :"your awesome" , NOT "You are awesome"..Nice try though.. I some times creatively write about someone's "awesome" as opposed to "awesomeness"; it's just playing with language..Not really that bright are ya? I like to break rules..It's called fun/play. _________________ Speak and remove all doubt..
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I was also interested in skiing better in really bad , cruddy conditions, chop, irregular bumps, crusts etc , and happened to notice that the "forbidden" move seemed to be fairly common in "bad" snow.
So you watch desperate skiers in desperate snow making desperate moves and conclude that they are all using the best approach to the conditions? Would you also watch a drowning swimmer to figure out the best kind of swim stroke to emulate?
Want to learn to ski better in crud, chop, crust, etc.? Then first recognize this: The fundamental techniques of good skiing do not change with the snow.
Watch the Big Tim videos here on Ttips. Tim skis everything using the same solid form and with strong technique, from hard snow to soft powder, wind-affected crust and crud to corn, his fundamental approach does not change. It's largely the same with Gwen. They don't suddenly start double pole planting.
Pat, Ron's dpp fixation has nothing to do with wanting to improve his skiing-- that was just something he made up to counter Harry's and your point about philosophy vs. nuts and bolts, which made him look like an even bigger tool than usual. What Ron is trying to do is justify his old school suckage, hands up in the air, dpp, etc.,
Of course this is where Ron will post for the millionth time "I rarely dpp," (thou doth protest too much Ron). But we have the pictures of our boy stinking it up, and they speak for themselves (go ahead Ron, try and explain them away again, it's funnier every time!).
Ron, you obviously like to take pictures, and there were about a hundred or so in your facebook albums, so I gotta ask, where are the pictures of the rippers you say you ski with? All I saw was hacks like yourself. Why do you take pictures of hacks hacking and post 'em on f'book instead of rippers ripping?
Personally, the only forum member I can think of who might want to ski with you is grampatele, with his scraggly beard, wool pants and bits of pine cone stuck between his teeth, you guys could dp together all day and tell yourselves how you are keeping it so real.
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I was also interested in skiing better in really bad , cruddy conditions, chop, irregular bumps, crusts etc , and happened to notice that the "forbidden" move seemed to be fairly common in "bad" snow.
So you watch desperate skiers in desperate snow making desperate moves and conclude that they are all using the best approach to the conditions? Would you also watch a drowning swimmer to figure out the best kind of swim stroke to emulate?
Want to learn to ski better in crud, chop, crust, etc.? Then first recognize this: The fundamental techniques of good skiing do not change with the snow.
Watch the Big Tim videos here on Ttips. Tim skis everything using the same solid form and with strong technique, from hard snow to soft powder, wind-affected crust and crud to corn, his fundamental approach does not change. It's largely the same with Gwen. They don't suddenly start double pole planting.
Pat, Ron's dpp fixation has nothing to do with wanting to improve his skiing-- that was just something he made up to counter Harry's and your point about philosophy vs. nuts and bolts, which made him look like an even bigger tool than usual. What Ron is trying to do is justify his old school suckage, hands up in the air, dpp, etc.,
Of course this is where Ron will post for the millionth time "I rarely dpp," (thou doth protest too much Ron). But we have the pictures of our boy stinking it up, and they speak for themselves (go ahead Ron, try and explain them away again, it's funnier every time!).
Ron, you obviously like to take pictures, and there were about a hundred or so in your facebook albums, so I gotta ask, where are the pictures of the rippers you say you ski with? All I saw was hacks like yourself. Why do you take pictures of hacks hacking and post 'em on f'book instead of rippers ripping?
Personally, the only forum member I can think of who might want to ski with you is grampatele, with his scraggly beard, wool pants and bits of pine cone stuck between his teeth, you guys could dp together all day and tell yourselves how you are keeping it so real.
1) When I do ski "oldschool"; it's just for fun. ; 2) You have no DPP pix of me, but maybe I'll get some for you this Saturday ;
3) Later I'll post some ski pix of a lady 52 who will just whip your sassy ass all over the mountain, as she would just about any awesome idiot in this forum ; 4) I really doubt you could ski the same gear and conditions as the Kingdom Boys , but GT, being a great guy, would happily have you come along! But you are really just about TALK X-lax..And you are a little coward..A sneaky little mommy's boy..You got my pix, come over we'll go get a beer..But first, we need to see you!POST UP X-MAN..The name , what fkin joke! _________________ Speak and remove all doubt..
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Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 6985 Location: Castle Rock, CO
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:15 pm Post subject:
I hear this term old school and I am not sure what it means. When you ski on leathers and 3 pins is your skiing form that much different? If yes then why?
When I ski on older gear my form is not that much different. Depending on terrain my feet are very close together from a fore aft point of view say heel toe plus 6 inches and my upper body and hands are the same as always. The only difference is that I ski slower and stop more often. I also avoid black runs with bumps.
Personally, the only forum member I can think of who might want to ski with you is grampatele, with his scraggly beard, wool pants and bits of pine cone stuck between his teeth, you guys could dp together all day and tell yourselves how you are keeping it so real.
Oh look it's X-Man doing his bitchy teen girl popularity schtick! When will the rest of the mean girls show up Xy?
I don't really have any leathers right now..Lightest boots are the Alpina 2075's, but I am much more inclined to use my Excursions..I also don't have any skis that are more than single-cambered, as I really don't like to fight the camber when the snow is less than ideally light. So when I go out and play on the farm fields, steep lold logging roads and lower-angled trees and glades sledding hills yada yada, I probably am on either of my 2 waxless skis --Xterrains or Lite Terrains--and Excursions..The main difference I can feel between skiing with an Excursion and my bigger boots is that there's much less cuff support in the Excursion, so I have to feel more with my feet and less with cuff pressure..I probably ski lower and more stretched out on my lighter gear..I almost always use BD ajustable poles, so there's no really poling difference that I can think of...It's probably a stretch to call this old school really; it's just skiing lighter with some minor technical changes..Of course sometimes I use 3pc bindings and that's
certainly a difference in line with Old School..
Like all forum terms, "Old School" is not that accurately defined and seems to mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people..When a poser like X-man uses the term "Old School"
they mean that the poles are "too long" and ( horror of horrors) the hands got up high ..or the boots are more than the prescribed distance of 5 inches apart ! ..or the knee is way to close to the ski! or or or or any other violation of the " TTIPS Big Book of Telemark Rules"..
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Xman, Cyrus, Talko and Pedro !!! Sorry Elias, you just aint all that ..
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject:
I don't ever ski 1.5 or double camber skis any more. I am on some waxable or waxless Fishers with my leathers and some Kazama Couloirs or Outback TM with my Excursions.
I would say what I am getting applies to Excursion the same as my leathers. I don't see how you can pressure or steer the rear ski if you let your stance spread out. Since as you say you can't pressure the cuff as much I focus on weighting the ball of my rear foot. If anything I keep a tighter stance on leathers or lighter boots then I do with big gear. As far as the hands in the air I think that is an overreaction to trying to get weight on the rear foot when your rear foot is to far back. You raise your hands and tilt your whole upper body back. SO IMHO doing this is compensating for a stance you should not be in in the first place.
I am no expert on this gear. I ski the leathers around the golf course a few times per year and the Excursions for novelty on groomers once in a long while. It has been many years since I took this stuff in to the BC on deeper snow. May be if I did my stance would change but I doubt it.
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And I have come across quite a number of articles, often by alpine instructors who are convinced they know just as much as you--FK! Imagine that! 2) You asked me what I meant by "fairly common"; I told you..So you whine? Good job! 3) You would think the good skiers of Mordegal would pay more attention to TTIPS! They don't seem to care. You should call the people running that resort in Mordegal, James! Set them straight ! 4) Pulling your authority card gets old..fast..so the topic never came up @ Your meetings..So what ? You Wanna argue DPP with an "expert", contact the author of this article! Cheers..
