Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 1952 Location: VT near Jay Peak
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject:
Vermont Refugee wrote:
In the meantime, anybody got a pair of unrockered Mantras that just don't look cool enough?? I'll send you enough $ for a couple of Starbucks or designer Vodkas to make you look cool again.
I bought, and skied a lot on the new (2012) Mantra this season, with our short winter of ice. The rockered tip is very subtle. More like early tip rise.
Carving on hard snow, I never noticed that I couldn't load up the ski tip with my Prophets/NTN. Never felt the tip lifting off hard snow (unlike my Tonics). The best carving ski setup I have ever skied on tele.
Where I did notice the early rise tip, was when I took these 184 Mantras into some glades, or skied the narrow band of powder on a VT run. In this case, they went edge-to-edge really quickly for a long ski.
So you don't need to look for a pair of "unrockered" Mantras.
Joined: 20 Jan 2011 Posts: 211 Location: Boise, ID
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:04 pm Post subject:
Think you made the right call w the Super 7s, over the plain S anyway. Demoed the S7s several times by now and it was always good. Last week took a pair of S7 for a couple runs on Spring pre-corn-ice. Was like turning a battleship. Swing em around & wait. And I got up ok the edges determinedly too. Could not wait to get off em. _________________ Grab the dog!
Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 6984 Location: Castle Rock, CO
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:58 am Post subject:
Geo, this may be more confusing then help but this is what i found out.
Ross S7 tele at plus 1
Scotty S7 tele at 0
Charlie Super 7 tele at 0 and alpine at 0
Tom S7 tele at-4 and alpine at -2
Tom mentioned that he and the other inst at Big Sky ski them back because other wise the tails catch in the bumps. I am not sure I would ski these a lot in the bumps.
Given what I know about each of them if it were me I would mount the Super 7 somewhere between 0 and -2 so I guess that would be -1. Since I have never seen you ski or ever been to Western Idaho or Eastern Washington my opinion may have little value.
Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 1994 Location: Moscow Mountain, PNW
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:08 pm Post subject:
Carpe Canum - I can totally imagine that on that type of snow. I wouldn't even have put them on (of course you may have been hoping it was going to corn up for gloppy real)
That's great info James and fits my gut sense at mounting center boot at -2cm. THANKS! Not confusing at all - it fits.
You mentioned bumps earlier. I used to ski bumps hard in leathers and straight 200-215 kazamas, evos, telesavage, kharus, hexels, whatever!
Guess what - I don't hunt bumps much any more, and I bought these skis for real pow and PNW/Cascade wet pow and mank.
BTW - I finally went to TGR and posted my first tender post there on a very long S7 tech thread.... and was duly ignored! Ha!
Teledance - could have sworn yer volkls were over 190. My so yesterday verdicts are 185 - and still super in steeps and trees. One the big wide open GS they can also do formidably; I often wish they were 195 there though.
Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 1300 Location: at work...naturally
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:16 pm Post subject:
I am fairly certain that you will like the shape of the ski. As to the actual ski itself- that will be fairly individualized for me to guess.
From first hand experience, I absolutely love my Icelantic Keepers (189 length)- which share the same proprietary shape as the S7~ albeit, they are stiffer throughout.
Some people are not fans of the sub 20m sidecut, but I have experienced zero hookiness and enjoyed the ability to rip 2 footed slalom turns on long runouts. With NTN, they are heavy, but the mass allows you to punish snow piles/ chop/ leftovers that get in your way.
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