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climbhoser

Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 10581 Location: Parker, CO and proud of it!
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Ron,
Melons go great here. I'm on the Front Range, which is very different than where chemman is. We're at ~6000'. Tomatoes also grow really well. We have a much longer growing season here, though. We have melons and tomatoes of myriad varieties.
Chemman, it you're in Summit then good luck. Might find some seed for native inter mountain grasses, but don't expect much from it. Good luck! _________________ "To me Plastic boots are kind of like a condom on the experience." -light skier-
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jellero

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 6336 Location: Ironton, Boyne City, Charlevoix, East Jordan, Salida
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| oh, yea the tomatoes. the only tomato to produce red tomatoes here is the "first lady" strain which i am growing again this year. last year i grew 11 strains and fl was the only one to make it and it did great, heavy producer. it is indeterminate. gave a plant to my cousin last spring and they kept it going all winter in a sun room, still going. j |
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jellero

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 6336 Location: Ironton, Boyne City, Charlevoix, East Jordan, Salida
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:02 am Post subject: |
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has anyone at 7000' ever grown limas or okra?
having a steady rain with no wind for two hours so far! j |
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diggman
Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 2309 Location: Minnesnowta
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Remember a lawn is just an expanse of a common ground cover. Grass is the default choice and then people spend time keeping all of the other things at bay.
The right strain of grass is as important as the method. I'm not sure what variety would be the prefered choice at 8000' but i'm sure some university has identifed the best strain.
The idea of using something else is worth considering. Around here creeping charlie is a weed to most but it is a great ground cover and very persistent.
We're using wild flowers in a number of areas to cut down on the amount of of "turf maintenance" we need to do. They require little maintenance, provide erosion control, and attract beneficial insects.
Of course if you are looking to create a play area neither of these are particularly good alternatives to grass. _________________ “I tell you, we are here on Earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you different.” Kurt Vonnegut |
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climbhoser

Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 10581 Location: Parker, CO and proud of it!
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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| diggman wrote: | | Of course if you are looking to create a play area neither of these are particularly good alternatives to grass. |
Which is why we have it. My wife is a MidWesterner who refuses to let our children grow up without a lawn. It pains me that I'm not strong enough to put my foot down and demand xeriscaping.
I think less of the issue for chemman is altitude, and more of the issue is that the soil where he is happens to be 99% granite  _________________ "To me Plastic boots are kind of like a condom on the experience." -light skier-
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vdrifter11

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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| climbhoser wrote: | Ron,
Melons go great here. I'm on the Front Range, which is very different than where chemman is. We're at ~6000'. Tomatoes also grow really well. We have a much longer growing season here, though. We have melons and tomatoes of myriad varieties.
Chemman, it you're in Summit then good luck. Might find some seed for native inter mountain grasses, but don't expect much from it. Good luck! | How big do the melons grow there-- yea, settin myself up with this one.  _________________ Speak and remove all doubt..
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rsireland3

Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 17707 Location: EL/R -6.12, SL/A -8.15 in NW VT and slightly south of the Poutine Curtain
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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I am unable to forget the melons of which Risk.Reduction posted pictures last year. _________________
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jellero

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 6336 Location: Ironton, Boyne City, Charlevoix, East Jordan, Salida
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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can anyone identify this plant? it was here when i bought this house in 1981. some sort of sage i guess. j
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vdrifter11

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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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^^^ looks like a type of sage..or juniper _________________ Speak and remove all doubt..
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James
Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 6978 Location: Castle Rock, CO
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chemman

Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 5828 Location: Flying over the Earth poisoning you with chemtrails
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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So if you could pluck a bit of a stem off and take a macro photo it would help, throw a quarter or ruler in there for scale. Then take a bit of it and smush it up with a finger in the palm of your hand, if it is sage it will smell quite strong. It is a bit odd unless you live in a midget house. _________________ Il n'y a que moi qui a toujours raison.
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James
Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 6978 Location: Castle Rock, CO
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Good idea for the smell but I can guarantee you it is sage but I may be bit off on the exact type so the macro photo would help |
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jellero

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 6336 Location: Ironton, Boyne City, Charlevoix, East Jordan, Salida
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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i know it's sage but wondered what kind. it gets water where it is and grows really fast. just curious. the lettuce is going off big time. everything is growing so fast. peas next week. best way to deal with bindweed?? this stuff has invaded my whole yard.
i discovered a way to recycle bubble wrap by the way. i put a tomato cage over a a newly planted starter, then wrap the b. wrap around it to protect from the wind for a week or so. the peppers i bought got blown to death without it. j |
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vdrifter11

Joined: 09 Dec 2011 Posts: 2034
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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I could answer that question quite easily, if i knew that it came from the drier regions of the PNW --or rather, Inland PNW..We have but 2 types : Big Sage and Sand Sage..it looks much more like Sand than Big, for what that's worth.
Looks like there are 2 types in Co. also : big sage and Mountain Sage..My $$ is on Mountain..the foliage looks not like Big Sage's.
http://www.rmbo.org/pif/bcp/phy87/sage.htm _________________ Speak and remove all doubt..
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jellero

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 6336 Location: Ironton, Boyne City, Charlevoix, East Jordan, Salida
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