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wayne
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 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:50 pm Post subject: OT? Avalanche in Afganistan buries village |
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Not skiing related, but a horrible event:
http://tinyurl.com/7lsht3p
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robrox
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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These all-to-typical avalanche disasters are like salt in the wounds...
May the living rise to the challenge and the dead have some peace.
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elk-tamer
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| robrox wrote: | These all-to-typical avalanche disasters are like salt in the wounds...
May the living rise to the challenge and the dead have some peace. |
Are they typical? Doesn't an avalanche wiping out a village mean a path that hasn't slid for as long as the village was there? Or do villages get hit a lot in those mountains? |
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robrox
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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170 killed in a pass last year.
Yeah, villages there are like homes close to mean high tide....every few years one goes under in a storm.
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Breakin' Trail
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Makes our 1st world avalanche deaths seem kind of silly in the grand scheme of things...  
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robrox
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| Breakin' Trail wrote: | | Makes our 1st world avalanche deaths seem kind of silly in the grand scheme of things... |
Hold on a second, Central Europe is having a horrible bout of Avalance deaths this Winter, and quite within preceedent. In 1952 nearly 80 people of that region died in February alone.
This year, just last month:
| Quote: | | An avalanche has killed ten people in Kosovo in southeastern Europe. The snow had buried a house with eleven people and a five-year-old girl was rescued from the snow, local media reported. The avalanche occurred in the village south of the city of Prizren Restelica. The Prime Minister of Kosovo, Hashim Thaci, visited the disaster site. The 500-meter-wide avalanche had buried twelve houses. |
Then, also in Europe, there are the 600 deaths from exposure during this Winter...and it ain't over yet.
Climatic realities have a way of crossing borders and dashing hopes no matter where one lives. It may be warmer than is typical in New England, but other places are having the opposite problem.
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Breakin' Trail
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| robrox wrote: | | Breakin' Trail wrote: | | Makes our 1st world avalanche deaths seem kind of silly in the grand scheme of things... |
Hold on a second, Central Europe is having a horrible bout of Avalance deaths this Winter, and quite within preceedent. In 1952 nearly 80 people of that region died in February alone. |
I am talking about people dying in avalanches while recreating vs. dying as a result of where you are living... guess this happens in the 1st world also? Still standing by what I said about recreational deaths seeming needless in the grand scheme...
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J
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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yup it happens here too.
Afew years ago a Cordova subdivision was hit. 5 or so houses wiped out with loss of life.
Juneau has some issues too. |
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Breakin' Trail
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| J wrote: | yup it happens here too.
Afew years ago a Cordova subdivision was hit. 5 or so houses wiped out with loss of life.
Juneau has some issues too. |
AK isn't really 1st world!!! 
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J
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Ha! Good point!! 
The road where this happened had two signs: the 1st one said "Avalanche Danger, Do Not Stop" the second sign said "School Bus Stop 100 feet" It seemed funny then! |
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robrox
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| Breakin' Trail wrote: | | ...I am talking about people dying in avalanches while recreating vs. dying as a result of where you are living...... |
Yeah, that's a thorny reality too.
I hear you!
This kind of thinking can make me cry out at the injustice, but in the end it usually winds up with Tom Petty blasting in my skull:
| Quote: | We got somethin' we both know it
We don't talk too much about it
Yeah it ain't no real big secret all the same
Somehow we get around it
Listen it don't really matter to me baby
You believe what you want to believe
You see you don't have to live like a refugee
Somewhere, somehow somebody
Must have kicked you around some
Tell me why you wanna lay there
And revel in your abandon
Listen it don't make no difference to me baby
Everybody's had to fight to be free
You see you don't have to live like a refugee
Now baby you don't have to live like a refugee
Baby we ain't the first
I'm sure a lot of other lover's been burned
Right now this seems real to you
But it's one of those things
You gotta feel to be true
Somewhere, somehow somebody
Must have kicked you around some
Who knows, maybe you were kidnapped
Tied up, taken away and held for ransom
It don't really matter to me
Everybody's had to fight to be free
You see you don't have to live like a refugee
I said you don't have to live like a refugee
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Harsh in this context...
So is thinking about the situation for New Orleans and Venice in 20-30 years..or less.
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