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bobskiing



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:22 pm    Post subject: May 20 annular eclipse Reply with quote

So, 2 months from today, Sunday May 20, maximum eclipse at about 6:30 PM PDT (later mountain time), the sun gets eclipsed by the moon.

Within the blue lines on the interactive NASA map below, we'll get a solar ring around the moon (no, not a solar corona, you need a total eclipse for that); outside the blue lines you'll get a crescent sun (the whole western half of the US will get a significant partial eclipse). Around northern CA and northern NV, the sight-line will be about 10 to 15 degrees north of west, 15 to 20 degrees above horizontal (near sunset). More towards Utah and New Mexico, the sun/moon will be nearly setting at the time of maximum eclipse.

Bring some aluminized mylar (light filtered by actual metal content); looking through at least two layers of that is considered somewhat safe. General weird atmospheric lighting is, to me, the real treat of solar eclipses. Camera gear and all that is optional; just go and enjoy it.

Links:
NASA map
intro video
Brit eclipse site
one more

For locations, I'm thinking about:
- Andesite Peak: a short hike from the Castle Peak exit near Donner Summit. Good sight-line, probably won't be so crowded as to max out parking, but it may be a good idea to pick up a Sno-Park permit in advance as a lot of places don't sell them into May.
- Peavine Peak, north of Reno: This is my alternate if the Sierra has too much cloud cover. Unfortunately, this may turn out to be a popular spot; parking capacity along that dirt road probably won't be up to the job. I'm thinking about less obvious Nevada locations with decent westward sight lines.


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Tele Till You're Smelly



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the heads-up- gonna order some viewing glasses (looks like you can get them cheap, a pack of 5 for $6)

So (and I'm just learning this myself now)- an annular eclipse is basically a total eclipse when the moon's apparent size is slightly smaller than the sun's so a ring of the sun is still visible. But more rare than a partial exclipse, and is a pretty big deal for those of us in the path of it, from northern CA/SW OR to north Texas!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tele Till You're Smelly wrote:
So (and I'm just learning this myself now)- an annular eclipse is basically a total eclipse when the moon's apparent size is slightly smaller than the sun's so a ring of the sun is still visible.

Yeah, the bodies are positioned such that the moon's disk isn't big enough to block the sun. It's about 88% of a total solar eclipse, a mere 3 f-stops, but the solar-ring effect should be awfully cool.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it looks to me as though it will start about 5:15 here in Nor Cal, is that right ? PST = (UT - Cool + 1 for Daylight Savings Time. 00:15 -8 would be 24 - 8 = 16 +1 + 17:15. (-12 = 5:15 PM)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, PDT is UT minus 7 hours, so in CA the partial phase begins at 5:15 PDT, getting to maximum at about 6:30. The Brit link in the first post has times and stuff for various US cities if you scroll way down the list.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tele Till You're Smelly wrote:
thanks for the heads-up- gonna order some viewing glasses (looks like you can get them cheap, a pack of 5 for $6)

So (and I'm just learning this myself now)- an annular eclipse is basically a total eclipse when the moon's apparent size is slightly smaller than the sun's so a ring of the sun is still visible. But more rare than a partial exclipse, and is a pretty big deal for those of us in the path of it, from northern CA/SW OR to north Texas!


Where are you getting those glasses?

I am planning to be in S. Utah for this one.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Off highway 341 to Virginia City and Monitor Pass are two other possibilities east of the main Sierra range if cloud cover is an issue. Also might be a good time for a trip to central NV.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering the cloud cover factor, I'm now thinking more about a lower-foothills plateau east of Red Bluff, around where a chunk of FS land sticks out westward. (And I suppose the low-hanging fruit for central valley locations with a decent westward view would be Oroville Dam, but personally I'd rather drive a bit farther to be, like, anywhere but Oroville.)

One of the eastside spots I was looking at is the peaklet a mile or so due east of the 395/70 junction; a dirt road appears to go to within a 20-minute scramble to the top. Good sight-line, far enough east of the Sierra, and there'd be no one there. Probably a good sight-line (through Sierra Valley) from a couple miles south of that peaklet without even having to go up a hill.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IME a good way to view partial eclipses is to project them with a pinhole. Take a long cardboard tube or box, put foil pinhole at one end, put a sheet of paper at the other, and cut out a viewing slot near that end so you can look in at the paper screen. Like this: http://www.exploratorium.edu/eclipse/how.html
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gdaut wrote:
Where are you getting those glasses?

They were once readily available -- but those were simpler times.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

polemonium wrote:
IME a good way to view partial eclipses is to project them with a pinhole.


That to me feels like you might as well watch a video of it though, and since it's an annular eclipse, the peak of it might not project that well. And with the cheap available glasses, why not watch directly? I ordered them off a seller on Amazon- just do a google search for "solar eclipse glasses" and you'll find plenty of sources.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Bob, What happened to the Lassen idea?

Roads not plowed to get the good west view?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tele Till You're Smelly wrote:
polemonium wrote:
IME a good way to view partial eclipses is to project them with a pinhole.


That to me feels like you might as well watch a video of it though, and since it's an annular eclipse, the peak of it might not project that well. And with the cheap available glasses, why not watch directly? I ordered them off a seller on Amazon- just do a google search for "solar eclipse glasses" and you'll find plenty of sources.


Well, it's not either/or. You can and should do both. The pinhole viewer is useful if you didn't organize glasses (or mylar, or exposed black ends of black-and-white film, which I used to use but are not common any more).

I know it doesn't sound like projecting the solar image would be more interesting than looking at a picture, but it is. I can't explain that, but think it's one of the weird atmospheric lighting effects bobskiing spoke of. Also if you use a long tube, the projected image is larger apparent size than for direct viewing.

Another example is the light and shadow under a tree. In normal light the leaves overlap and the gaps form "pinholes" so the dappled light under a tree is a combination of many images of the sun's circle. During a partial eclipse these become many crescents. It's really weird looking and much more interesting to see than I would have guessed beforehand.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sierra Fred wrote:
Hey Bob, What happened to the Lassen idea?

Roads not plowed to get the good west view?

Good memory, Fred, but plans have devolved a bit since then. What was originally going to be a family snow weekend plus eclipse has now turned into "Bob cuts out early from sister-in-law's graduation party and drives hundreds of miles just in time to see a few minutes of sun-donut."
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bump. Get out there and check it out, 6:30ish pacific time, check your local listings. I fixed some wrong info in my OP; not as low on the horizon as I'd originally said in CA/NV. It's looking reasonably clear in most places, coastal fog belt notwithstanding. Enjoy.
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