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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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James,

If the average temperature is rising (as measured by a millions thermometer readings) then it is hardly hypocritical to point out the texas heat wave of last summer is probably an example of this while while dismissing a cold snap as an anomaly. One of these things corresponds to the trend and the other bucks the trend how is that hypocrisy?




Laughing Laughing So - let me see if I have this straight: You offer as proof of GW, evidence, the significance of which, assumes GW.

Dude, you're no logician.

There's actual evidence of GW - even AGW . Why do you resort to the stupid? By default?


I'm not trying to prove GW, the stinkin' thermometers do that. I am saying that the above proof (thermometers) negates the argument of hypocrisy.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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French For Cant Tele wrote:
stevesliva wrote:
French For Cant Tele wrote:
If the average temperature is rising (as measured by a millions thermometer readings) then it is hardly hypocritical to point out the texas heat wave of last summer is probably an example of this while while dismissing a cold snap as an anomaly. One of these things corresponds to the trend and the other bucks the trend how is that hypocrisy?


Because the heat wave could be an anomaly.


This still wouldn't indicate hypocrisy. If your neighbor is painting his house red and you point out that there is one spot is particularly red it is not hypocritical to say that the specs of white probably came from a bird.


You're saying that an argument that the white specs came from a bird is more tenable than an argument that the absence of white specs came from a paint roller.


Dude, I was reaching for that analogy, I think you broke it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

French For Cant Tele wrote:
freeheelwilly wrote:
French For Cant Tele wrote:
James,

If the average temperature is rising (as measured by a millions thermometer readings) then it is hardly hypocritical to point out the texas heat wave of last summer is probably an example of this while while dismissing a cold snap as an anomaly. One of these things corresponds to the trend and the other bucks the trend how is that hypocrisy?




Laughing Laughing So - let me see if I have this straight: You offer as proof of GW, evidence, the significance of which, assumes GW.

Dude, you're no logician.

There's actual evidence of GW - even AGW . Why do you resort to the stupid? By default?


I'm not trying to prove GW, the stinkin' thermometers do that. I am saying that the above proof (thermometers) negates the argument of hypocrisy.


Dude the thermometer does not matter. It is a cyclic event. Get over it and invest!

I am convinced there is no way to prove global climatic change. Oh well...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes you sarcastically referred to it as "weather" and posted it, and your sarcastic comment, in a thread dedicated to global warming and one in which you routinely dump global warming propaganda.


I referred to it as weather because it is weather-any other interpretation of intent, sarcastic or otherwise, is uninteresting to me.


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Are you really going to argue now that you weren't suggesting that the current heat wave is related to the globular warmingz?


It represents a data point. String enough of those data points together and you get climate.

Hope that helps.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A hot time in the old town..or..another reason for me to avoid L.A.

Climate Change to Bring More Hot Days to Los Angeles Region: UCLA Study

The Los Angeles region is expected to see more days above 95 degrees by the middle of the 21st Century, according to a first-ever report from UCLA on the local impacts of climate change.

The report, "Mid-Century Warming in the Los Angeles Region," predicts that temperatures will rise an average of 4.6 degrees Fahreneit if greenhouse-gas emissions continue to increase at current levels.

The change would mean three times today's number of extremely hot days in downtown LA, and four times as many in the surrounding valleys and mountain areas.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Climate-Change-to-Bring-More-Hot-Days-Los-Angeles-Region-UCLA-Study-159941395.html

PDF of the study :
http://c-change.la/pdf/LARC-web.pdf
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes you sarcastically referred to it as "weather" and posted it, and your sarcastic comment, in a thread dedicated to global warming and one in which you routinely dump global warming propaganda.


I referred to it as weather because it is weather-any other interpretation of intent, sarcastic or otherwise, is uninteresting to me.


Quote:
Are you really going to argue now that you weren't suggesting that the current heat wave is related to the globular warmingz?


It represents a data point. String enough of those data points together and you get climate.

Hope that helps.


Nothing you post will prove it. Face it you have failed.

There is no way to prove it.

You must think of another way Grasshopper!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

French For Cant Tele wrote:
freeheelwilly wrote:
French For Cant Tele wrote:
James,

If the average temperature is rising (as measured by a millions thermometer readings) then it is hardly hypocritical to point out the texas heat wave of last summer is probably an example of this while while dismissing a cold snap as an anomaly. One of these things corresponds to the trend and the other bucks the trend how is that hypocrisy?




Laughing Laughing So - let me see if I have this straight: You offer as proof of GW, evidence, the significance of which, assumes GW.

Dude, you're no logician.

There's actual evidence of GW - even AGW . Why do you resort to the stupid? By default?


I'm not trying to prove GW, the stinkin' thermometers do that. I am saying that the above proof (thermometers) negates the argument of hypocrisy.


What? Laughing Laughing I don't even know what to say.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeapinGnome wrote:
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Yes you sarcastically referred to it as "weather" and posted it, and your sarcastic comment, in a thread dedicated to global warming and one in which you routinely dump global warming propaganda.


I referred to it as weather because it is weather-any other interpretation of intent, sarcastic or otherwise, is uninteresting to me.


Quote:
Are you really going to argue now that you weren't suggesting that the current heat wave is related to the globular warmingz?


It represents a data point. String enough of those data points together and you get climate.

Hope that helps.


It doesn't. Except to demonstrate that even though you love to post "science-y" sounding stuff, you're not above posting crap when you feel like it and you're not even honest enough to admit it when called out on it.

Hope that hurts.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeapinGnome-

Do you believe everything you read? NBC in L.A.?

Did you notice that the "UCLA" study was funded by a special interest group?

About the
Los Angeles Regional Collaborative for Climate Action and Sustainability

Purpose

The Los Angeles Regional Collaborative for Climate Action and Sustainability is a network designed to encourage greater coordination and cooperation at the local and regional levels by bringing together leadership from government, the business community, academia, labor, environmental and community groups. The purpose of this collaboration is to share information, foster partnerships, and develop system-wide strategies to address climate change and promote a green economy through sustainable communities.


The green economy means sucking taxpayers dry to pay for non-scientific predictions heavily tainted with eco-ideology.

Sorry.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you believe everything you read?


Nope.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you believe everything you read?


Nope. Only those things that confirm my beliefs.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take me out to the ball park-
Great pitchers out there and a rash of no hitters-still the home run average is up. What's up with that?

Global Warming Could Bring Grand-Slam Weather
It's a fact: summer brews the best weather recipe for home-run conditions.
Balls have the potential to travel farther in summer months because air expands as it warms, making a warm summer day prime conditions for home-run hopefuls, said Expert Senior Meteorologist Brett Anderson.

Robert Adair, a retired physics professor from Yale University, calculated that a 2-degree rise in temperature will add a foot to a 400-foot home-run ball in his book "The Physics of Baseball."
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/global-warming-could-bring-gra/66826

All we have is the Bees- minor league, but they're still fun to watch on a summer evening.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Take me out to the ball park-
Great pitchers out there and a rash of no hitters-still the home run average is up. What's up with that?

Global Warming Could Bring Grand-Slam Weather
It's a fact: summer brews the best weather recipe for home-run conditions.
Balls have the potential to travel farther in summer months because air expands as it warms, making a warm summer day prime conditions for home-run hopefuls, said Expert Senior Meteorologist Brett Anderson.

Robert Adair, a retired physics professor from Yale University, calculated that a 2-degree rise in temperature will add a foot to a 400-foot home-run ball in his book "The Physics of Baseball."
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/global-warming-could-bring-gra/66826

All we have is the Bees- minor league, but they're still fun to watch on a summer evening.


That could be an interesting by-product of a warming Earth. But I really don't think those cow pastures they call outfields in the NL need to get any bigger. Yet.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://o.seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2018496037_oysters22m.html

Pretty direct link to atmospheric CO2 levels with this issue.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This seems apropos - tackling global warming in 21 easy steps.




For those who can't read:






and









Of course, another 80 and they will catch up to Dauncey.
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