Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 12 Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:59 pm Post subject: Bindings - does active/neutral play a role in the park?
This has been probably asked several times...but anyway
I am an old mogul skier (36) that also snowboarded quite alot in the 90s. So, I have spent my fare share in the park, and hit even some quite big kickers (60-70 feet or so). I still like to go in the park and do some non-technical stuff (3's, 1's, switch 1's on small hits, occasional 5, grabs, easy presses, some "bonks" etc.)
For a couple of last seasons I have been quite hooked on the tele turn. Even so that I have spent more and more time "just" turning, learning the basics and the feel of the t-turn. (it is quite addictive, damn!)
However, last spring I started to venture into park with teles and even hit some middle size hits, tried 3's etc. I was on my Hippy Stinx (179cm) and R8's.
Last summer I got myself a very cheap pair of Karhu Agent Freeheels (in plastic, the 86mm middle version) - I thought this would be my "park set-up" (and better for groomer skiing on our molehills than the K2s anyway). By intuition I choosed the releseable bindings for them, you know old mogul skier's knees...Voile Hardwire CRB's.
And here is the problem...the bindings felt quite a bit more neutral and non-sturdy (is that a word?) than the R8s. I've been getting used to them for turns already but when hitting kickers they just somehow feel wrong/very difficult...so I am pondering would the pivot point of the cable make a difference? When in R8s you feel like you have more alpine like support and it is not that easy to loose balance. I am especially afraid of going too much forward and that kind of resulting an unwanted front flip...
With Voiles I feel I have to stand just perfectly on the skis when hitting kickers, and that leads me hesitating from the bigger hits (>~30 feet or so of flat).
Any opinions? I am thinking of getting the NTN system anyway next year...selling current two pair of teleskis, getting rid of the 75mm and maybe getting just one pair of rockered all-mountain skis (Shoguns, Rossi S3's or similars). _________________ high speed low tricks
I have a big problem with most cable/cartridge bindings in the park...They're loose and floppy, and during a day, become looser and floppier...they just scare me...
I'm a huge advocate for Bomber Bindings but they've become a collectors item of sorts..
I think my next choice would be the NtN, but I haven't skied them...I know a couple guys who love them in the park, but I'm still skeptical..Seems like the HHs would be a good option as well...
Bindings make the single biggest difference in telemark skiing, especially park, so if at all possible ski em all and choose what suits you best. _________________ ...Drop Knees...
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:17 am Post subject: Re: Bindings - does active/neutral play a role in the park?
JJN wrote:
For a couple of last seasons I have been quite hooked on the tele turn. Even so that I have spent more and more time "just" turning, learning the basics and the feel of the t-turn.
just re-read and caught this....
The single greatest thing in the world....simple, limitless fun.
Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 12 Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:22 pm Post subject:
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Bindings make the single biggest difference in telemark skiing, especially park, so if at all possible ski em all and choose what suits you best
Ok. Thanks for the reply.
I guess I have to try to meet up some more local tele-skiers and just swap skis for a while. (And there is one ok demo-event around too)
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The single greatest thing in the world....simple, limitless fun. Yay Telemarking!!!
Going there strongly...(although I just got a new alpine set-up for park/allmountain too...K2 Extremes with Jester Schizos...pretty stoked on that too, gotta admit) _________________ high speed low tricks
Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 1922 Location: Nova Scotia
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:19 pm Post subject:
KneeDropRMU wrote:
I have a big problem with most cable/cartridge bindings in the park...They're loose and floppy, and during a day, become looser and floppier...they just scare me...
I'm a huge advocate for Bomber Bindings but they've become a collectors item of sorts..
I think my next choice would be the NtN, but I haven't skied them...I know a couple guys who love them in the park, but I'm still skeptical..Seems like the HHs would be a good option as well...
Bindings make the single biggest difference in telemark skiing, especially park, so if at all possible ski em all and choose what suits you best.
Overall I like the feel of NTN better than HH for the park. Buttering with NTN feels smoother than HH. _________________ Larry
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