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jibmaster



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:56 pm    Post subject: prefab cabins Reply with quote

I am in the process of purchasing some land by Shasta! I can hardly wait!!! I'm also looking into the prefab cabin idea. Been googling around a bit and found some interesting stuff. Anyone have experience with prefab log cabins? Do they last? Are they a ripoff?
If you own one SPEAK UP!

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check out these prefab options

http://www.spiritelements.com/ProdList.aspx?c=1311

the bear paw cabin is under $1000
http://www.cabelas.com/products/Ccat600471.jsp

a ton of info here
http://www.loghomes.com/

and here
http://www.abetterplan.com/cabinplans.html

how to take a shit in the woods
http://www.envirolet.com/index.html
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in the same market, but like a different style.

I can afford these: http://www.yurts.com/
lot's of other manufactuers if you google it
This is a yuppie yurt: http://www.yurtworks.com/

but I want something more like these:
http://www.alchemyarchitects.com/projects/weehouse.htm
http://www.lamidesign.com/plans/planscat/camppg.html
I like the idea of trying to use more recycled materials and decrease the impact and energy needs of a home. Of course we're still talking about building a new human dwelling in a 'wild' area that will require a car, so it's pretty lame to really think of it as "green", but you've got to try, right?

not my style but I know a few of these guys:
http://www.oldschoolbuilders.com/
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is an interesting site, which doesn't discuss log homes in particular, but does have a number of links. It's dedicated to small house plans and building your own home.

http://www.countryplans.com
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think these structures are pretty affordable

1. The Superior Park Model Homes 6 X 99 Program:

This program only requires (2) Security Deposits totaling
$198.00! The first (6) monthly payments are $99.00 followed







  by 30, 42, or 54 payments at the normal rate.

2. The Superior Park Model Homes 7 X 100 Program:

This program begins with only $100.00 down, followed by $100.00 per month for the next (6) months! This program allows the lessee (you) six months to get your park model in and generating rental income before beginning to make payments!

3. The Superior Park Model Homes Seasonal Payment Program:

This program allows the lessee (you) to take up to (3) full months per year with NO Payments. If your cash flow is somewhat seasonal, this program is the perfect plan for you!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carbo wrote:
I'm in the same market, but like a different style.

I can afford these: http://www.yurts.com/
lot's of other manufactuers if you google it
This is a yuppie yurt: http://www.yurtworks.com/

but I want something more like these:
http://www.alchemyarchitects.com/projects/weehouse.htm
http://www.lamidesign.com/plans/planscat/camppg.html
I like the idea of trying to use more recycled materials and decrease the impact and energy needs of a home. Of course we're still talking about building a new human dwelling in a 'wild' area that will require a car, so it's pretty lame to really think of it as "green", but you've got to try, right?

not my style but I know a few of these guys:
http://www.oldschoolbuilders.com/


thanks for the links. i like our house in Tahoe but sometimes think about one day having a clean, modern-design house. most of the ones i've seen, including the ones you linked to above, are not very well suited to climates that have large amounts of snow. i.e. they have flat roofs and very large glass areas.

i've come to think that if intelligently laid-out, a 800 sq ft house can be a great residence for 2 or 3 people.. it astounds me how large 'standard' homes have become.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am liking that LaMiDesigns. Don't know if you ever read Dwell Magazine, but you should check it out if you haven't heard of it.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay, do you have a link?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These links are great! if any others out there have experiences with both the yourt and the "small homes" please post them!!!

I just moved closer in to Portland because I couldn't stand the commute in to work everyday from the "outskirts" where I used to live. I'm in a cool part of town, but it's still town, and I'm still renting. Already thinking of getting my own place next fall, but would MUCH rather get some land out by Hood and install something like a yurt of small structure anywhere from .5-1 mile or more away from the road for weekends and eventually full time residence. This might actually be something affordable! thanks for all of you who've posted already!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to check out Lucias Little Houses.

An architect in maine specializes in small house design. In particular, I thought this house was cool. It is designed to built in phases.

http://www.knightarchitect.com/LLH/getting/

Another great resource for small (normal) size homebuilding is Sarah Susanka. Really cool design ideas.

http://www.notsobighouse.com/


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting article:

http://www.robbreport.com/Articles/Home/Design-Architecture/Fab-Prefab.asp
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay wrote:
Don't know if you ever read Dwell Magazine

I get three magazine subscriptions: Couloir, Telemark, and Dwell.....go figure.
Dwell is pretty cool, but they're trying to cover a huge subject, so sometimes I think they get swamped. Also sometimes I feel they miss the mark so much it pisses me off. But every few issues there will be something that is just so cool that I never would have heard about otherwise that I'm glad I get the mag.
bjz wrote:
These links are great! if any others out there have experiences with both the yourt and the "small homes" please post them!!!

More Yurts:
http://www.nomadshelter.com/
http://www.rainieryurts.com/
http://www.redskyshelters.com/
http://www.coloradoyurt.com/indexfallsale.html

More Mod PreFab homes, though not necessarily small:
http://www.livemodern.com/resources/resources/directories/prefabhouses/
and some fun Modern housing links biased towards the Green/Prefab
http://www.livemodern.com/resources
http://www.treehugger.com/
One other Architect that I think is cool:
http://mlsarchitects.ca/building/residential/

bjz wrote:
I just moved closer in to Portland because I couldn't stand the commute in to work everyday from the "outskirts" where I used to live. I'm in a cool part of town, but it's still town, and I'm still renting. Already thinking of getting my own place next fall, but would MUCH rather get some land out by Hood and install something like a yurt of small structure anywhere from .5-1 mile or more away from the road for weekends and eventually full time residence. This might actually be something affordable! thanks for all of you who've posted already!

Interesting bjz, I'm thinking something sort of the same.....Looking at moving to Portland or Burlington within the next year. In both places I'd like to try to find a tiny urban infill plot to plop a little prefab on. Like Nils says above, the amount of space that contemporary houses take up is obscene. How can people use 3,000-6,000sf houses?! I've got a few designs on my computer right now for 2-4bedroom houses from 800-1,500sf. Plop that on .05acres in a city center infill lot and you've got something! Unfortunately Portland's residential minimum lot size restrictions seem a bit, well, restrictive. Multi-family dwellings seem to be preferred by the zoning board, guess that makes sense.
THEN......I would put a little solar Yurt up by Hood (for Portland) or Jay (for Burlington). I don't know what land is like around Hood, probably pricey.
Nils, if you believe the designers the flat roofs and large glass panel can stand the snow/cold. I guess with steel beams in the ceiling any snow load can be accounted for. And if your willing to $pay$ you can get some seriously insulated glass panels. But, it does seem much easier to sell these things in Topanga Canyon (er whatever that SoCal place is) than in other climes.
I think I hijacked your thread jibmaster, sorry! I don't know anything about log cabins, but your intentions seem cool. The composting toilets do work and are a nice addition, just have to keep them from freezing. One thing I did find out for little off-the-grid type places: For the same cost of hooking up power lines to your place you can buy a really big/sweet/dependable solar system, and then it's free after that.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's funny, there's such a stigma against prefab houses in this country. Most people don't defferentiate between prefab and trailer houses.
The industry for prefab houses is exploding right now and there are a tonn of really good architects out there who are designing prefab homes that don't look it at all.

They're also really good for the environment. The waist is minimzed because Most of it can be collected off the factory floor and reused. And they tend to have a smaller ecological footprint.

Here's a neat article about it http://architecture.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.realestatejournal.com/housegarden/architecture/20040121%2Djeffrey.html

I know you're looking for a more log cabin feel but here are some interesting ones to take a look at
http://www.fabprefab.com/fabfiles/fablisthome.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Most people don't defferentiate between prefab and trailer houses.


Tornado's do! But that may be due in part to the clustering effect Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This one is my favorite

http://www.superiorparkmodelhomes.com/biglakepics.html
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you want to think outside the box, check out fab prefab

(edit - or just see harpsichord's post)
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