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NEW ANTITWIST SYSTEM FOR DYNAFIT BINDINGS

 
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stefano



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:48 am    Post subject: NEW ANTITWIST SYSTEM FOR DYNAFIT BINDINGS Reply with quote

HI ALL AROUND SKIERS,

Some good news into Click-Clack word:

1) CLICK-CLACK PATENT WAS SOLD TO A BIG COMPANY.

2) New patented ANTITWIST system for Dynafit bindings was applied.

The new device can be installed with or whitout Clic-clack step and solve this problem:

1- Permit the Click-clack mounting on ALL TLT Series, also on to TLT COMFORT series, since has no external parts

2- Can be used to stop the self rotation to locking position on the normal Dynafit Bindigs (in the step on position)

3- NO MORE BROKEN REAR BINDINGS ! This system installed on the bindings, in any of the above configuration, assure that the rear binding do not comes out from the shaft also in case of hard vertical lifting forces (in falling).

For more info contact me at: robotec@netsurf.it

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stefano



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:52 am    Post subject: Link to Click-Clack & antitwist page: Reply with quote

Link to Click-Clack & antitwist page:

http://www.maruelli.com/click-clackengl.htm


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David Witherspoon



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Dynafiddles don't twist unless I ask them to.
What am I doing wrong?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand what this does. What do you mean by "self rotation to locking position"? Is this the toe piece or the heel piece?

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Nick (AT)



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heel piece. Mine sometimes do it, so I tend to mainly use the middle heel lift position. Some people never seem to have it happen to them.
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dauwhe



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick (AT) wrote:
Heel piece. Mine sometimes do it, so I tend to mainly use the middle heel lift position. Some people never seem to have it happen to them.


Ah, so when using the heel elevators in touring mode, they can inadvertently twist and lock the heel? Hasn't happened to me.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More likely to happen if you use brakes (the upward pressure of the brake springs on the heel piece make it rotate). Cutting off one of the brake springs helps mitigate this. As does making sure your fully rotate the heel so it "clicks" into place.

IME, the heel tends to rotate from the high climbing position to the middle position, not to the locked position (which would be a bigger PITA).
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see. No brakes, no problem.
'Course the leashes can be a PITA.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought you were talking about this.
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Jonathan S



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had this happen on one tour last season: super-sticky/clump snow (i.e., the ultimate snow for snowball fights). This was out of over 400,000 earned vertical during the season.
Cumulatively, I've had this happen on three tours out of almost 1.2 million vertical on Dynafits.

For those whose setups are prone to this, first solution as a prior poster noted is to remove the section return spring on the brake. (Instead of cutting it, it can also be removed by temporarily popping out the retaining pins -- best done with the brake removed from the binding.) In addition, spraying the heel of the boot and binding with silicone will prevent the snow build-up.

Overall, this product has always looked intriguing, but has mainly struck me as a solution in search of a problem.

BTW, although personally I prefer my own custom leash design, B&D has an interesting alternative:
http://www.bndskigear.com/skileash.html
I blogged about it briefly in this crampon review:
http://www.wildsnow.com/1813/wide-ski-crampons/
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While there is the anti-twist plate thing, the main point of this product is to be an alternative heel riser for dynafit. Instead of rotating the heel you just flip the lever back and forth. There are some tradeoffs though, such as the highest riser position being more annoying. See the wildsnow review for more info..

http://www.wildsnow.com/277/click-clack-dynafit-aftermarket-heel-unit-review/
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:05 am    Post subject: Self locking rotation Reply with quote

hi,

Thanks to everybody for the interest on this.

The rotation in self locking position happen when you cross a steep slope (valley at left, expecially) on hard snow with no track and your heels are in the middle position:

The ski touch the glass just on the angle then the boot push the heels in cross direction so after some step (depend on your weight) the bindings turn in the locking unlikely position.

This happen to me at 4100m under a storm in a bad steep ice slope into the alps: is not funny because of no track and no snow to create a little base so I can't stop safe to re-open the binding. I must go on, for 1 hour, till the summit with one locked ski !

Here in the Italian Alps we have many long steep valley that you must follow in the same condition so it happen to us many time x year.

There I take the decision to develope click-clack and antitwist...

Now the new antitwist is for who hold TLT Comfort or any other with brake and can't install the inox antitwist plate.

As told this new antitwist is inthernal into the binding and solve also the probelm of jumping out of the rear binding in big falling with high relese charge on the spring.

Pls do not remove or cut parts of your binding ! If you don't like brake (we never use it) simply remove all the brake system. If you just cut spring you loose totally their function.

All my device are made to help you without involving the safety system of the bindings !
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Self locking rotation Reply with quote

stefano wrote:
Pls do not remove or cut parts of your binding ! If you don't like brake (we never use it) simply remove all the brake system. If you just cut spring you loose totally their function.


That claim is totally untrue. Removing one of the brake's two return springs still allows more than enough "sproing" for the brake to deploy. (If the brake is having problems deploying, then the problem is not the spring, but rather the angle at which the brake has retracted -- making a little pad out of duct tape solves that problem.)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless it's deep fluff and you have wide skis. Saw a ski w/dyna-brakes sail out a sight last year...thank god it wasn't mine. With skinnier skis the brakes are much more effective.



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ +1

A friend's Dynafit FR-10 disappeared at Gulmarg last February due to the ineffectiveness of the brakes. Conditions weren't too fluffy either, unless mashed potatoes count as fluff. Fortunately, we eventually found the ski a couple of hundred metres from where it escaped, around the corner in a gully. Seems to me like leashes are a better solution, and lighter too.
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