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heyyou
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 6417 Location: with flavor crystals
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:34 am Post subject: Q: cold and batteries |
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| I hate wearing watches. If I leave my watch in my pack in, say, sub zero temps, will it effect it's function? |
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climbhoser

Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 10640 Location: Parker, CO and proud of it!
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:40 am Post subject: |
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yes _________________ "To me Plastic boots are kind of like a condom on the experience." -light skier-
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mtn_chick

Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 742 Location: Yukon
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, batteries seem to hate the cold for some reason. Not very convenient I know! |
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grayson

Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 618 Location: Burlington USA (just west of Vermont)
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:51 am Post subject: |
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the short answer: yes. cold will not only affect your watch's battery, but it'll also affect its crystal oscillator, which is what allows it to keep accurate time.
the long answer: watches almost universally use cheap "watch crystal" type crystals, which have pretty good performance in the room-temp to body-temp kind of range, but have terrible performance outside that range. your watch will not keep good time for very long at sub-zero temperatures. if you really need to know how much it might be off after a given number of hours at some particular temperature, pm me and i can dig up a generic watch crystal datasheet and do a little math based on its temperature drift specifications. however, watch batteries too will degrade at low temperatures, and eventually fail to deliver enough power to the watch circuitry to keep it running accurately, or even running at all. again pm me if you'd like me to dig into the actual likely failure temperature of a typical watch battery. |
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bluuu

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 415 Location: French for "renting"
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| lots of altimeters have clocks. get a digital altimeter. then, you not only know the time, you also know the elevation. extra bonus. and, because it's an altimeter and designed for the weather, it should always work in ski-temperatures. |
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aqua_toque

Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 3088 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:28 am Post subject: |
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| It's hard to say. Depends on your height, weight and body temperature. |
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jcpoczatek

Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 1265 Location: It's a seekrit
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:38 am Post subject: |
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| aqua_toque wrote: | | It's hard to say. Depends on your height, weight and body temperature. |
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OnBendedKnee

Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 974 Location: Where men are men, sheep are scared, and cowpoke's a verb.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:39 am Post subject: |
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The LCD on most watches also seems to be sensitive to low temps. I've had them blank out when carrying a watch on my belt, then revive after a while in my pocket--of course, this could be a battery issue.
OTOH, my GPS units with lithium batteries never flinch at sub-zero. Battery life is lower, but keeping a spare set in my pocket and changing frequently helps. _________________ If gravity is my friend going down, is levity my friend going up? |
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The New Guy
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 1530 Location: after 17 years, 5 months to the day, home again
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:33 am Post subject: |
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why don't you put your watch in an inside pocket of your jacket? stays warmer, not on your wrist, problem solved? _________________ "Those who look outward dream; those who look inward awaken..." - Carl Jung
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Snowman

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 791 Location: Ask Heisenberg
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:00 am Post subject: |
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It depends on the type of battery.
I've used rechargeables in a digital camera and they definitely don't like the cold.
Alkaline seem to do ok.
Lithium are best.
I don't know if watch batteries come in all these various kinds.
I had a watch that would act up in the cold, I think it reset itself or something. But when it warmed up it was ok, so the cold effects may be reversible to at least some degree. If you don't mind resetting the watch! |
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heyyou
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 6417 Location: with flavor crystals
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:25 am Post subject: |
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| The New Guy wrote: | | why don't you put your watch in an inside pocket of your jacket? stays warmer, not on your wrist, problem solved? |
Everyone seems to confirm what I've suspected. Watch in pocket is fine, except the challenge of remembering to take it with. That's the big problem. |
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