Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:19 am Post subject: a question for the (cold intolerant) women out there...
I want to get my tele girl some WARM pants to wear for cold activities like winter camping etc. She is the type to "freeze to death" in the house in winter (might as well toss in spring and fall too). I'm amazed she likes to ski so much.
These will be underlayers - not top layers like ski pants etc. I am thinkin' down but wanted to ask - what's your favorite super-warmies?
Thanks!
Geez, from the title, I thought this was going to be an expansion of the "women who create ambiguity by not answering their emails," from that other thread, or worse yet a rehash of the "most elusive creature at tahoe" thread.
Then I noticed that there was no comma between cold and intolerant.
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:37 am Post subject:
Wait, they make long underwear bottoms out of DOWN? Where have I been. And I was just wearing expedition-weight long underwear with fleece pants and drop-seat shells...enlighten me!
If I might latch another question onto your post: how about tops? I currently wear a super-warm sports bra, two polypro turtlenecks, a fleece vest, a full fleece, then the shell. And, lemme tell ya, I definitely have problems putting my arms down. Anyone have a recommendation for the world's warmest fleece vest? Maybe I could eliminate a layer or two.
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 7101 Location: Breckenridge CO
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:40 am Post subject:
Not sure if they still make them, or if they have womens sizes and styles, but I have a pair of mountain Hardwear Chugach pants and they are the warmest bottom layer I own by far. They are synthetic fill, and bulky, but man are they warm. They would be the trick for winter camping as long as you don't mind hauling them around. _________________ Creeds and doctrines are like a raft to get you to the other shore and then to relinquish. Neither cling to the raft or reject it when drowning. Even better, become a strong swimmer.
Wait, they make long underwear bottoms out of DOWN? Where have I been. And I was just wearing expedition-weight long underwear with fleece pants and drop-seat shells...enlighten me!
If I might latch another question onto your post: how about tops? I currently wear a super-warm sports bra, two polypro turtlenecks, a fleece vest, a full fleece, then the shell. And, lemme tell ya, I definitely have problems putting my arms down. Anyone have a recommendation for the world's warmest fleece vest? Maybe I could eliminate a layer or two.
Ditch all that, and get a synthetic insulated jacket, something like a Golite Coal, Mountain Hardwear Chugach, Patagonia Puff, etc. Integral Designs makes nice insulated pants.
My God, all I ever wear is long john, goretex, and a light insulated jacket for rest stops.
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:45 am Post subject:
Kristin S wrote:
Maybe I could eliminate a layer or two.
Oh yeah you could! You sound like me as a little kid wearing three heavy wool sweaters, and a down polar coat with synthetic fur around the hood to do anything outside. Toss in some hockey padding and boy, we used to sled into anything back then.
Think: Merino/polypro blends, a windshirt and ditch some fleece for a good softshell and a synthetic puffball vest.
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 7101 Location: Breckenridge CO
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:50 am Post subject:
[quote="Kristin S" If I might latch another question onto your post: how about tops? I currently wear a super-warm sports bra, two polypro turtlenecks, a fleece vest, a full fleece, then the shell. And, lemme tell ya, I definitely have problems putting my arms down. Anyone have a recommendation for the world's warmest fleece vest? Maybe I could eliminate a layer or two.[/quote]
Go with a down vest instead of fleece. It will do a lot better job of keeping your core temp up. If that is not enough, maybe try a light down sweater over a light top and under your shell. Most of the quality outdoor clothing manufacturers make one.
If that doesn't work, maybe you'll have to find a way to curl Alby up in there with you while your skiing _________________ Creeds and doctrines are like a raft to get you to the other shore and then to relinquish. Neither cling to the raft or reject it when drowning. Even better, become a strong swimmer.
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:15 am Post subject:
pbelitz wrote:
Ditch all that, and get a synthetic insulated jacket, something like a Golite Coal, Mountain Hardwear Chugach, Patagonia Puff, etc. Integral Designs makes nice insulated pants.
Good ideas. Patagonia has an insulated pant this season that looks nice as well. Merino Wool L. Underwear (Icebreaker, Ibex or Smartwool are nice) is toasty, and doesn't smell as well.
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 928 Location: So close, it's frightening
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:15 am Post subject:
feelstranger, thanks for letting me tag along here. I'm learning so much.
The hockey reference, too funny. My kid brother looked like a tick about to pop...
(I just reminded myself of that funny picture of me, TG, and you (Shan) on the lift at Loveland. In that picture I look like the freaking Michelin man. Me in all the layers listed above, both of you guys in some stylin' soft shell dealies. Ha!
Edited because I like the way tg edited my own statement.
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Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 4413 Location: Ice Coast
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:57 am Post subject:
Hmm, if she tends to run warm, I'd be thinking core temp and hat. I only wear a synthetic layer and Gortex on my legs. I know there are places that sell FLEECE BRAS. oo baby.
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 379 Location: South Lake Tahoe, CA
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:31 am Post subject:
As a person who has sometimes been accused of having no circulation, I've found that wearing a windproof fleece under the top layer (be it a soft shell or full-on parka) has helped minimize purple extremities.
My new secret weapon against the cold is the massive (read: it fits my 6 ft boyfriend) Golite synthetic parka I picked up at an REI-outlet.com sale. I look like a powder blue version of the Michelin woman, but no more cold feet or hands as a result.
Oh, and Brenda, I have seen fleece bra tops (the ones that cover the belly) from Patagucci, though I dunno if they're still carrying them.
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 5333 Location: Tahoe City
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:38 am Post subject:
Kristin: consider ditching the fleece -- it got super popular by feeling so soft and comfortable, but it really doesn't have a very wide working temperature range, and tends to carry too much water. Have you worn anything that usees Primaloft insulation? It's the best bet for a synthetic (stay-warm-when-damp) down alternative these days. Crazy warm for its deceptively thin appearance, comfortably soft, and you can really beat it up without degrading the insulation value. Definitely less bulky than fleece too.
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 182 Location: the shallow end of the genetic pool
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:50 am Post subject:
I was in Eastern Mountain Sports the other day and they had EMS brand primaloft pants... think they were called "belay pants" , they looked pretty warm. Very puffy, so may give "junk in the trunk appearance". Not that theres anything wrong with that..
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