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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:57 pm Post subject:
And it was February. _________________ You give us what we want in a week, or we beat the hell out of you and take it anyway.
--Anacreon message, roughly translated by Mayor Hardin
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 5829 Location: Flying over the Earth poisoning you with chemtrails
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:09 pm Post subject:
French For Cant Tele wrote:
chemman wrote:
French For Cant Tele wrote:
chemman wrote:
French For Cant Tele wrote:
risk.reduction wrote:
My apologies. I was refering to any shit starting the day of the occurence.
Any facts that Z-Man terrorized the assailant?
Aside from chasing him and shooting him in the chest, no.
So why do you choose your interpretation and not this one:
I think Zman, having been trained by the Sherriff’s office and wearing the hat of the community recognized neighborhood watch, observed Martin acting suspicious, called 911, was told to disengaged his pursuit, then while walking back to his vehicle was attacked, assaulted and defended himself when Martin tried to take his legal weapon.
To start with there is nothing suspicious about walking with skittles, or walking while talking to your girlfriend on the phone. Zimmerman behaves irrationally from the start by falsely concluding that Martin was suspicious and then by escalating by calling the cops and then escalating by following/chasing/running after Martin for no reason, I then presume that somewhere in the confrontation/fight he either escalated again or at least failed to de-escalate, and then finally he escalated to firing point plank to the chest without a warning shot or a wounding shot. Zimmerman escalated the thing from the start and failed to behave rationally, why would I think that his testimony is true?
So what I read Martin was walking along talking with his girlfriend. Notices someone watching and following him so he dons his hoodie.
Where are you getting that from? According to Zimmerman's police phone call it was raining at the time, that might explain having the hood on.
here:
Quote:
ABC News was there exclusively as the 16-year-old girl told Crump about the last moments of the teenager's life.
"He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man," Martin's friend said. "I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run but he said he was not going to run."
_________________ Il n'y a que moi qui a toujours raison.
BF's French lady.
Joined: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 5718 Location: Switzerland
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:57 pm Post subject:
chemman wrote:
French For Cant Tele wrote:
chemman wrote:
French For Cant Tele wrote:
chemman wrote:
French For Cant Tele wrote:
risk.reduction wrote:
My apologies. I was refering to any shit starting the day of the occurence.
Any facts that Z-Man terrorized the assailant?
Aside from chasing him and shooting him in the chest, no.
So why do you choose your interpretation and not this one:
I think Zman, having been trained by the Sherriff’s office and wearing the hat of the community recognized neighborhood watch, observed Martin acting suspicious, called 911, was told to disengaged his pursuit, then while walking back to his vehicle was attacked, assaulted and defended himself when Martin tried to take his legal weapon.
To start with there is nothing suspicious about walking with skittles, or walking while talking to your girlfriend on the phone. Zimmerman behaves irrationally from the start by falsely concluding that Martin was suspicious and then by escalating by calling the cops and then escalating by following/chasing/running after Martin for no reason, I then presume that somewhere in the confrontation/fight he either escalated again or at least failed to de-escalate, and then finally he escalated to firing point plank to the chest without a warning shot or a wounding shot. Zimmerman escalated the thing from the start and failed to behave rationally, why would I think that his testimony is true?
So what I read Martin was walking along talking with his girlfriend. Notices someone watching and following him so he dons his hoodie.
Where are you getting that from? According to Zimmerman's police phone call it was raining at the time, that might explain having the hood on.
here:
Quote:
ABC News was there exclusively as the 16-year-old girl told Crump about the last moments of the teenager's life.
"He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man," Martin's friend said. "I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run but he said he was not going to run."
Ok, which side are you on again Chemman?
You are posting stuff from a witness that says TM was walking fast, trying to lose the guy. _________________ You give us what we want in a week, or we beat the hell out of you and take it anyway.
--Anacreon message, roughly translated by Mayor Hardin
Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 5123 Location: Mammoth Lakes (sometimes)
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:35 pm Post subject:
chemman wrote:
French For Cant Tele wrote:
chemman wrote:
French For Cant Tele wrote:
chemman wrote:
French For Cant Tele wrote:
risk.reduction wrote:
My apologies. I was refering to any shit starting the day of the occurence.
Any facts that Z-Man terrorized the assailant?
Aside from chasing him and shooting him in the chest, no.
So why do you choose your interpretation and not this one:
I think Zman, having been trained by the Sherriff’s office and wearing the hat of the community recognized neighborhood watch, observed Martin acting suspicious, called 911, was told to disengaged his pursuit, then while walking back to his vehicle was attacked, assaulted and defended himself when Martin tried to take his legal weapon.
To start with there is nothing suspicious about walking with skittles, or walking while talking to your girlfriend on the phone. Zimmerman behaves irrationally from the start by falsely concluding that Martin was suspicious and then by escalating by calling the cops and then escalating by following/chasing/running after Martin for no reason, I then presume that somewhere in the confrontation/fight he either escalated again or at least failed to de-escalate, and then finally he escalated to firing point plank to the chest without a warning shot or a wounding shot. Zimmerman escalated the thing from the start and failed to behave rationally, why would I think that his testimony is true?
So what I read Martin was walking along talking with his girlfriend. Notices someone watching and following him so he dons his hoodie.
Where are you getting that from? According to Zimmerman's police phone call it was raining at the time, that might explain having the hood on.
here:
Quote:
ABC News was there exclusively as the 16-year-old girl told Crump about the last moments of the teenager's life.
"He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man," Martin's friend said. "I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run but he said he was not going to run."
You aren't helping your client's case. _________________
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 5829 Location: Flying over the Earth poisoning you with chemtrails
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:11 pm Post subject:
I am not for or against anyone. I think it could go either way.
After listening to the tone of Zman's voice I pretty much concluded he was confident relaxed truthful and was not chasing anyone. He had eyes on someone but was definitely not exerting himself chasing after someone. Since he had the cops on the line it is hard for me to believe he was up to no good, especially murder.
Not much you can say about Treyvon except we know he was tossed out of school for a week. Be it for weed or whatever a week out of school is not good for any student. That presents the possibility that he may not always be the innocent young child being portrayed by some. Donning your hoodie, well maybe his ears were cold and maybe he thought he could be incognito, who knows. There plenty of kids his age that are way deep in illegal activities at his age. Not saying he was being a criminal but that does not mean he was totally innocent. _________________ Il n'y a que moi qui a toujours raison.
BF's French lady.
Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Posts: 101 Location: Hartford, CT
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:25 pm Post subject:
Many of us could/would have been kicked out of school for a week if the rules they go by today were applied to us then.
They arrest kids for fighting these days, get over it.
Has anyone mentioned that TM was in the neighborhood for a legitimate reason?
Quote:
According to police, Zimmerman spotted Martin walking through the community on the teen’s way back from a convenience store. The teenager was visiting his father’s fiancée, who lived in the gated community. Zimmerman told a police dispatcher that Martin had his hand at his waistband and had something in his hand.
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 5829 Location: Flying over the Earth poisoning you with chemtrails
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:57 am Post subject:
skituxnoob wrote:
Many of us could/would have been kicked out of school for a week if the rules they go by today were applied to us then.
They arrest kids for fighting these days, get over it.
Has anyone mentioned that TM was in the neighborhood for a legitimate reason?
Quote:
According to police, Zimmerman spotted Martin walking through the community on the teen’s way back from a convenience store. The teenager was visiting his father’s fiancée, who lived in the gated community. Zimmerman told a police dispatcher that Martin had his hand at his waistband and had something in his hand.
So are you trying to say it is easier to be booted from school these days? I don't think so. I know I could have been booted from school but chose to personally recuse my self at times. I knew plenty of people that were told to go home. Missing classes is never good in any case.The fact that Trayvon was kicked out of school for a week for an empty bag of weed actually speaks volumes. JMHO _________________ Il n'y a que moi qui a toujours raison.
BF's French lady.
Didn't realize this was still going on. I'm guessing that if Trayvon was an honor student with early admission acceptance to MIT, the prosecution wouldn't want that information to be supressed.
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