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unLost thread - Quandary Avalanche
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frank



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:37 am    Post subject: Re: unLost thread - Quandary Avalanche Reply with quote

Mapadu,
One question for you, I don't quite understand the quote below. Could you possibly expand on it? Who is Euphora? No, but seriously, you saw the snow curling below you? How did this happen? Where you then in the middle, and you saw the mass you wer on sliding up above the "stable" snowpack below?
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Euphoria was building when something alarming appeared 50 feet below me. I saw snow curling up in the air and it registered: avalanche..
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: unLost thread - Quandary Avalanche Reply with quote

Frank, yes, you answered the question you asked.

If you look closely at a couple of those pictures you can see an area in the middle of the debris that hardly broke up at all. Look closer and there's a turning ski track on it. That piece of slab slid quite a bit without breaking up as I was tucking well above the spot that turn currently lies.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No words. Just support and understanding.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GOOD ON YOU MAPADU!!!

I think the 25 deg 28 deg mistake is easy to make...reading the devices ain't so easy plus I wonder about measurement error in device. I brought this up during the Durand thread and somebody rained on my parade...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

funhog wrote:
Ireading the devices ain't so easy plus I wonder about measurement error in device. I brought this up during the Durand thread and somebody rained on my parade...


While this incident was eyeballing being 7deg off, +-3deg is easy to make with a slopemeter and is something that absolutely must be considered every time.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Summit wrote:

While this incident was eyeballing being 7deg off, +-3deg is easy to make with a slopemeter and is something that absolutely must be considered every time.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely a terrific story, Mapadu. You had me shaking in my boots....er make that slippers....for Winter.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for a sharing your experience, Mapadu, and for telling such a moving story eloquently. Thanks for the bump, B.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a story. Ditto on the bump, thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

funhog wrote:
GOOD ON YOU MAPADU!!!

I think the 25 deg 28 deg mistake is easy to make...reading the devices ain't so easy plus I wonder about measurement error in device. I brought this up during the Durand thread and somebody rained on my parade...


Agreed! Geologists call it measuring dip v. apparent dip. If your slope measuring devise is not exactly aligned perpendicular to strike (a horizontal line through the inclined plane), you could be off by a few degrees. Those few degrees could make the difference between a slide and no slide.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, 2x, to mapadu for posting in the first place and to B for the bump.

Stuff to think on....
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good writing of a gripping story. I didn't see this the first time. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. You had me shaking. I'm so glad that this turned out well for both of you, and that you've shared it with us. I also missed it the first time.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



So, you ski alone much anymore in avalanche terrain?
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