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Milan P



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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 5:59 pm    Post subject: Europe Alps or Alta Reply with quote

Living 6 drive hours from Austrian Alps glacier ski centers I have hard time to justify my desire to ski next season in Alta, Utah. Alta allures me long time for its marketed best powder quality and I am excited to ski on the mountain where snowboarders are not allowed. I like also the short distance from Salt Lake city. Anybody out there able to compare skiing in Alta with Austrian Alps? Maybe there are some further strong arguments for prefering Alta ski holidays than Austrian. Those extra plus 900 dollars costs (air ticket) for Alta skiing is for me a damned dilemma. Any persuasive arguments are appreciated.
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Tele Till You're Smelly



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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well- I live in Colorado but did a Haute Route trip for the cultural experience mostly- on the basis of ski quality alone it's hard to justify leaving one good ski region for another far away- you could get skunked on new snow! But if you are looking for the cultural expereince that is the SLC area, sure why not- and maybe you will get great powder, who knows. I'd actually consider British Columbia if the North American powder ski experience is what you are after.
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James



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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree you could get the best snow of your life at Alta or more likely good snow.

I am 3 for 3 in British Columbia for spectacular skiing.
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ghostofcarl



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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lay off the crack milan. youd be stupid to go to alta - its not the best skiing in the world, much less the US, its just where the skibrobrah dipshits ski


if you can work in the us, go elsewhere. if you cant work in the u even more reasons to go elsewhere

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bergbryce



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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carl, I'm surprised you didn't comment on this...
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Alta allures me long time
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Nick (AT)



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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you travel a long way, on a date fixed in advance, expecting that you will hit fantastic snow, odds are you will be disappointed (no matter where you travel to).
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ghostofcarl



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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bergbryce wrote:
Carl, I'm surprised you didn't comment on this...
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Alta allures me long time

Having tried to explain snow skiing to non-gringos in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos and Thailand... it's a whole mess of cards



The Alps have, generally, far more lift access and a lower density of lift skiers. They may have less, in cm, snowfall per year, but my average of cm of fresh/run for liftserved was better. Shit may have changed. they don't have the douche shit fit atmosphere, in general, thankfully
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mr. toad



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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to ski the Alps someday. I know the skiing will likely be marginal, maybe good, or suck; and expensive, but it'll be the Alps.

Yes, you should ski Alta.
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stevesliva



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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr. toad wrote:
Yes, you should ski Alta.


If you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do.

Just manage expectations accordingly. Depending on what you're looking for, you could be more impressed with a lot of other places in North America. Alta's not huge, it doesn't have a ton of vertical, and it basically has three lifts that matter. Pretty nice place to ski, though. Some seasons, it's almost always good. A lot of other places are more changeable from the standpoint of weather. Alta's is usually sun or snow.
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Bruce H



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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Compared to lift centers in the Alps, Alta is small. You can cover much of it in a day skiing. Of course, the skiing can be great.
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stevesliva



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce H wrote:
You can cover much of it in a day skiing.

Especially if you're willing to push tourists off the High T, and get aggro on all the side-steps.

Note: I don't condone this... I actually would more often be rolling my eyes at some eager skittle thug on my tails when we were all going nowhere fast together.
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Jim



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And on a powder day at Alta you can find powder for about 3 hours.
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ghostofcarl



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr. toad wrote:
I want to ski the Alps someday. I know the skiing will likely be marginal, maybe good, or suck; and expensive, but it'll be the Alps.


compared to south lake tahoe the alps have more and bigger terrain, are cheaper, less crowded and are generally, imo all around better. Even in a shitty year it's easier to find untracked snow than in the shithole that's known as Tahoe.


wow Jim! A whole 3 hours! That sounds like paradise! I guess it gives more time for the N. American ski for an hour w/your go pro and spend 23 hours editing the footage and spewing online
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stevesliva



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ghostofcarl wrote:
A whole 3 hours! That sounds like paradise!


Hey, when the three hours are up, at least you're close to home.
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JapanTele



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just moved to the Garmisch area and Germany but I would pass on Alta. There are so many more options in the Alps. The skiing experience will be better in the Alps versus Alta. Yes Alta will have better quality of snow but the skier density at Alta will chew it up so quickly. For example, I skied Zugspitze here in Germany after 25cm of snow on an absolute bluebird day and had fresh tracks until closing. Tough to do that at Alta. Yes the terrain may be better in Alta but the ski areas in Austria are huge. I've only sampled a few so far but I'm impressed.
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