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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:02 pm Post subject:
freeheelwilly wrote:
French For Cant Think Straight wrote:
I don't think they ever even criticized Complete Skier back in the day.
We don't have to - Steve says so.
You're so full of shit, FCCT. Michael Moore is a liar. Period. He admitted it to Charlie Rose.
Bush wasn't "dishonest". Bush wasn't "stupid" and the Bush presidency wasn't a "failed" one (a 2 term "failed" presidency? That's unusual.) I'm going to continue to stomp that message down your throat until you gag. I'll be joined by most historians and others who deal in the prose of hard facts rather than the poetry of hyperbolic opinion.
Okay, I give up. Bush was a great president. All you have to do is look past the wars, the economy, our diplomatic standing, civil rights, care for returning veterans and there were some great things in there somewhere, I think. _________________
^^^^But, it's a new election cycle ..We can blame all that on
the other guys !! No one will ever notice! _________________ Speak and remove all doubt..
No one cares that you CAN'T tele!
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:15 pm Post subject:
French For Cant Tele wrote:
freeheelwilly wrote:
French For Cant Think Straight wrote:
I don't think they ever even criticized Complete Skier back in the day.
We don't have to - Steve says so.
You're so full of shit, FCCT. Michael Moore is a liar. Period. He admitted it to Charlie Rose.
Bush wasn't "dishonest". Bush wasn't "stupid" and the Bush presidency wasn't a "failed" one (a 2 term "failed" presidency? That's unusual.) I'm going to continue to stomp that message down your throat until you gag. I'll be joined by most historians and others who deal in the prose of hard facts rather than the poetry of hyperbolic opinion.
Okay, I give up. Bush was a great president. All you have to do is look past the wars, the economy, our diplomatic standing, civil rights, care for returning veterans and there were some great things in there somewhere, I think.
He had a reasonable position WRT immigration. _________________ that sounds like a sure-fire way to get bitch-slapped by devil's club -- dschane
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:20 pm Post subject:
French For Cant Tele wrote:
freeheelwilly wrote:
French For Cant Think Straight wrote:
I don't think they ever even criticized Complete Skier back in the day.
We don't have to - Steve says so.
You're so full of shit, FCCT. Michael Moore is a liar. Period. He admitted it to Charlie Rose.
Bush wasn't "dishonest". Bush wasn't "stupid" and the Bush presidency wasn't a "failed" one (a 2 term "failed" presidency? That's unusual.) I'm going to continue to stomp that message down your throat until you gag. I'll be joined by most historians and others who deal in the prose of hard facts rather than the poetry of hyperbolic opinion.
Okay, I give up. Bush was a great president.
Yeah, those are the two choices: Great President or Failed President.
I don't think they ever even criticized Complete Skier back in the day.
We don't have to - Steve says so.
You're so full of shit, FCCT. Michael Moore is a liar. Period. He admitted it to Charlie Rose.
Bush wasn't "dishonest". Bush wasn't "stupid" and the Bush presidency wasn't a "failed" one (a 2 term "failed" presidency? That's unusual.) I'm going to continue to stomp that message down your throat until you gag. I'll be joined by most historians and others who deal in the prose of hard facts rather than the poetry of hyperbolic opinion.
Okay, I give up. Bush was a great president.
Yeah, those are the two choices: Great President or Failed President.
I don't think they ever even criticized Complete Skier back in the day.
We don't have to - Steve says so.
True statement.
You know... you also don't have to apologize for Dubya. It's amusing that your panties are knotted because someone called Dubya "stupid." Jeez, those people will stop at nothing to make shit up about Dubya.
Indifferent to detail, lacking in curiosity, and manifesting a strong penchant to delegate authority, George W. Bush failed to supervise key underlings with whom he entrusted the operations of his administration. As a result, and because his minions let him down, Bush didn't modify his strategy in Iraq to take into account the insurrection there; he didn't intervene to provide U.S. forces in the Middle East with needed vehicular and body armor (Congress eventually did); and he defended a sloppy federal response to the victims of Hurricane Katrina.
When Bush took office in 2001, he inherited a $236 billion budget surplus. When Bush ended his term, he left a $1.2 trillion deficit, a shortfall that was due in large part to his reluctance to control federal spending.
Bush did not dispose of the "axis of evil," a term he first used in his 2002 State of the Union Address (Iraq is optimistically a "work in progress" and Iran and North Korea are determined to become important nuclear powers). Also, after finding goodness in Vladimir Putin's soul, Bush did little to improve relations with Russia. On the plus side, after September 11, 2001, there were no more attacks on Americans in the United States during Bush's presidential watch.
It seems that George Bush moved Herbert Hoover up a notch. _________________
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject:
stevesliva wrote:
freeheelwilly wrote:
French For Cant Think Straight wrote:
I don't think they ever even criticized Complete Skier back in the day.
We don't have to - Steve says so.
True statement.
You know... you also don't have to apologize for Dubya. .
What's there to apologize for? On the defining event of his Presidency, the War in Iraq, he was correct. Eventually, he even got around to prosecuting it effectively and now it's over and we prevailed.
On the other hand, the Afghan War (otherwise known as the "Good War" for those who used to enjoy comparing it to Iraq, circa 2005) will come to an end next year with a far less certain future.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:31 pm Post subject:
freeheelwilly wrote:
stevesliva wrote:
freeheelwilly wrote:
French For Cant Think Straight wrote:
I don't think they ever even criticized Complete Skier back in the day.
We don't have to - Steve says so.
True statement.
You know... you also don't have to apologize for Dubya. .
What's there to apologize for? On the defining event of his Presidency, the War in Iraq, he was correct. Eventually, he even got around to prosecuting it effectively and now it's over and we prevailed.
On the other hand, the Afghan War (otherwise known as the "Good War" for those who used to enjoy comparing it to Iraq, circa 2005) will come to an end next year with a far less certain future.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject:
stevesliva wrote:
freeheelwilly wrote:
On the defining event of his Presidency, the War in Iraq, he was correct.
What exactly was he "correct" about? That the US could invade and capture Iraq? That's setting the bar really copulating low.
That in a post-911 world it was unacceptable to allow the status quo in Iraq to continue. Establishing the first and only Arab democracy in the middle east addressed the short term problem of Saddam and the longer term problem of the root causes of Islamic extremism. This approach would pay dividends not only for the people of Iraq, but for the region in general, the United States and the world. It was not just the "Hawks" and the "Crazies" that promoted this approach; there was a pretty broad spectrum of political support for this in the United States. Many of the same people that supported the US's intervention in Bosnia, supported the Iraq War - and they weren't even Republicans! Imagine that!
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:56 pm Post subject:
freeheelwilly wrote:
That in a post-911 world it was unacceptable to allow the status quo in Iraq to continue. Establishing the first and only Arab democracy in the middle east addressed the short term problem of Saddam and the longer term problem of the root causes of Islamic extremism. This approach would pay dividends not only for the people of Iraq, but for the region in general, the United States and the world. It was not just the "Hawks" and the "Crazies" that promoted this approach; there was a pretty broad spectrum of political support for this in the United States. Many of the same people that supported the US's intervention in Bosnia, supported the Iraq War - and they weren't even Republicans! Imagine that!
Damn FHW you do Satire pretty well, who would have thought it. You going to start writing for the Onion now? _________________ “at core, men are afraid women will laugh at them, while at core, women are afraid men will kill them. And probably because they deserve it."
On the defining event of his Presidency, the War in Iraq, he was correct.
What exactly was he "correct" about? That the US could invade and capture Iraq? That's setting the bar really copulating low.
That in a post-911 world it was unacceptable to allow the status quo in Iraq to continue. Establishing the first and only Arab democracy in the middle east addressed the short term problem of Saddam and the longer term problem of the root causes of Islamic extremism.This approach would pay dividends not only for the people of Iraq, but for the region in general, the United States and the world. It was not just the "Hawks" and the "Crazies" that promoted this approach; there was a pretty broad spectrum of political support for this in the United States. Many of the same people that supported the US's intervention in Bosnia, supported the Iraq War - and they weren't even Republicans! Imagine that!
You mean democracy the way we want it or define it ? What about the Palestinian "democracy" Willy ? We really are appointed by god to enlighten the world , at all costs ? The "root" causes of Islam extremism are the same as those of Christian extremism, Willy, namely, RELIGION-BASED IGNORANCE, and we have plenty of our own,as do other democracies. The only dividends that have been paid to date are in the form of much higher prices paid to the oil bosses, Willy! _________________ Speak and remove all doubt..
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That in a post-911 world it was unacceptable to allow the status quo in Iraq to continue. Establishing the first and only Arab democracy in the middle east addressed the short term problem of Saddam and the longer term problem of the root causes of Islamic extremism. This approach would pay dividends not only for the people of Iraq, but for the region in general, the United States and the world.
More recent history would indicate that instigating the war and occupying the country aren't necessary. Your argument implies we should be taking over Syria right now. You're just regurgitating the domino theory. It's garbage.
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More recent history would indicate that instigating the war and occupying the country aren't necessary. Your argument implies we should be taking over Syria right now. You're just regurgitating the domino theory. It's garbage.