Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 8527 Location: The Sun Mountain Town
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:27 pm Post subject:
Keep your chin up and back straight. _________________ Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for.
-Marco Rubio
Besides getting more fit, which I've been working on, what do you do to go faster on the up?
Slide, don't stomp, if possible..
Kick turns and traverse where it makes
better sense ..Climbing wires on all
skis, including waxless:lol:
I am out to Climb Mnt Spokane right now..
Meet me @ Lodge one..I will be taking
some lite gear ( lite terrains and excursions)
and some heavier gear, just in case ..
We will be climbing the hour glass to b29 and on to
the summit.. takes 1.5 hrs.. then we will do
laps on the hour glass ( race course)..O
i will also have my adjustable poles
Wow, can't believe you need help with climbing..
Happy to help:lol:
1800 of vert..cheap skiing..
The Summit..
The hourglass --u will not get up it with
just grip wax or a waxless ski..esp not now..
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SEE YOU THERE! _________________ Speak and remove all doubt..
No one cares that you CAN'T tele!
also I'll add, never plant your poles in front of your feet. Your poles can only push, so if they're in front of you, they're pushing you back down the hill. To help with this I try to never let my hands get much in front of my hips, they should be down by your pockets, NOT out in front of you (repeat: you can NOT pull on your poles to help you up the mountain, though everyone tries).
I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone struggling in a skin track, and then seen them have an epiphany when told, "Chin UP, back STRAIGHT, hands at YOUR SIDE!"
My boss recently bought an AT rig, and had a horrible experience on his first day out. The next day he called me into a meeting and asked me to teach him how to skin, productive day at work!
Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 17706 Location: EL/R -6.12, SL/A -8.15 in NW VT and slightly south of the Poutine Curtain
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:45 pm Post subject:
Sorta mirrors what I found with my Fischer Outtabound skis. It was counter instinct, however, standing up tall, so that one felt as if they were leaning backwards allowed the waxless pattern on those skis to bite better. Lean "back" to go forward. _________________
oh, one more (already mentioned above, but I'll reiterate)
Slide 'em forward, don't pick 'em up.
As much as possible, don't lift your skis up high on every step, work on using the least amount of motion possible to get the next foot out in front.
I remember this article from a 2003 Couloir Magazine, where the Euro Rando racers say, "Piano, piano" for their skinning style (that means "Softly, softly"). I use this as my mantra when I've got a big climb in front of me
Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 17731 Location: following Diogenes, but the ba$tard threw away the lamp so I'm just stumbling along in the dark!
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:03 pm Post subject:
Love the whiteboard treatment!
I will add that in a few key spots it might be good to go steep for a quick gainer. In my experience this works out only if by doing so one reaches another shallow track, with the end result being that good chunk of overal ascent time was saved for a modest investment in energy.
In all honesty, I have found very few such spots in my travels...the payoff was usually well worth it. _________________ "Moderate is not the new Low" - Chris Joosen, USFS Lead Snow Ranger (Tuckerman Ravine, White Mountains National Forest)
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 525 Location: Elmore, VT
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:06 pm Post subject:
my tips have been covered above, except for
"leading with your hip."
I tend to only do it when Im tired, but if you lead
with your hip (think of pointing with your iliac crest)
it reduces the work your muscles--specifically hip flexor--
have to do. My buddy who guides says they call it
the "swiss bob" in Europe...or something like that.
It takes a little while to get used to it, because its
kind of counterintuitive, but its much more
efficient in my experience.
Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 17731 Location: following Diogenes, but the ba$tard threw away the lamp so I'm just stumbling along in the dark!
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:06 pm Post subject:
One more ...
music selection or a good audio book can be a way to keep a nice tempo. Just like in running, if you go at a conversational pace, you will last longer! _________________ "Moderate is not the new Low" - Chris Joosen, USFS Lead Snow Ranger (Tuckerman Ravine, White Mountains National Forest)
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 3356 Location: The bull's eye
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:09 pm Post subject:
robrox wrote:
Love the whiteboard treatment!
^^^^^ X2
I also focus on working the hams rather than the quads. _________________ I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with someone who is clearly unarmed. Target practice, on the other hand . . .
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