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franzz

Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 474
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Roll one of those under Baf daily.
Then you can sandwich 2-3 credit with rug tape between insole & shoes at Baf. _________________ Man of few word.
Post a picture and remove all doubt!
I may be wrong, ask my ex ! |
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Pinnah

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 3548 Location: Bahston
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| JohnF wrote: | | Pinnah wrote: | | ... Persistent nerve pain in my ball of foot... |
Morton's neuroma? |
I think so.
Suggestions? _________________ Dave "Pinnah" Mann
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"It is impossible, or not easy, to do noble acts without the proper equipment."
Aristotle, <<Politics>>, 1323a-b, trans Jowett |
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JohnF

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2173 Location: Syracuse, New York
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Pinnah wrote: | ...
Suggestions? |
There have been a few threads on here about it. There was also a real good one on the Road forum at bike forums.
I make an arch using molefoam + ductape under the metatarsals. This separates the joints. I also use a wider shoe and avoid tight socks. |
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robrox

Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 17728 Location: following Diogenes, but the ba$tard threw away the lamp so I'm just stumbling along in the dark!
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| JohnF wrote: | | Pinnah wrote: | ...
Suggestions? |
There have been a few threads on here about it. There was also a real good one on the Road forum at bike forums.
I make an arch using molefoam + ductape under the metatarsals. This separates the joints. I also use a wider shoe and avoid tight socks. | sounds like a pathway to comfort! getting some width into the toe box and giving those pore'l doggies some room for healthy motion, is a great plan!
This ain't the '80s, even sandals can have cleats! _________________ "Moderate is not the new Low" - Chris Joosen, USFS Lead Snow Ranger (Tuckerman Ravine, White Mountains National Forest) |
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axebiker

Joined: 02 Apr 2008 Posts: 1373 Location: Saint Paul, MN
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Axe, I'm not intending to disparage Salsa. Just reflecting on your assertion that they're an out of the box company and that you haven't had much to compare it against. I'm just adding that the box of designs is bigger than where Salsa has gone with the Casseroll. |
You'll notice that none of my pics were of a Casseroll, nor do I have one anymore. The Cass is not representative of Salsa's ootb thinking. The
Fargo is though.
Ive had tons of bikes - just nothing in the touring class, so the only one i could really refer to is the Cass. Just sold a Cervelo, and working on selling a Ridley and Trek. Sold 3 Salsas and an All-City last year, and a Masi, Kona, and Cannondale the year before. Moving back further, a couple Litespeeds, a Lemond, a Gary Fisher, a couple Fuji, and another Trek or two. I think there was a Schwinn in there as well. That's in the last 8 years.
Scary to think of that... _________________ Gravity. It's the law. |
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bobbo7915
Joined: 11 Sep 2008 Posts: 264 Location: Massachusetts.....but NH every weekend there is snow
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| i have always found road shoes to be narrower then they really should be. i dont have a wide foot at all, normal width on all of my running shoes but have always had to size up to fit road shoes....until i spent the money on a pair of off the shelf bont's (not the custom ones) so much room in the toe-box and they are fulllllllly heat moldable, so far beyond comfortable. i normally ride 75-100 miles on sundays all summer long and have never had any problems with foot pain since i splurged on the bont's. |
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telebelly
Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 1199 Location: North Vancouver & Whistler
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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My new wheels. Already shredded a tire on some massive something or other on the road riding home from work for the first time. Torn sidewall, nick in the rim and scratches on the crank arm. No idea what it was. Rides well and fits me better than mu old bike.
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James
Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 6978 Location: Castle Rock, CO
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Nice bike.
I think Giant needs to come up with a cleaner way to attach a saddle to an integrated seat post.
The blue Garmin adds a nice touch. |
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Pinnah

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 3548 Location: Bahston
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| JohnF wrote: | | Pinnah wrote: | ...
Suggestions? |
There have been a few threads on here about it. There was also a real good one on the Road forum at bike forums.
I make an arch using molefoam + ductape under the metatarsals. This separates the joints. I also use a wider shoe and avoid tight socks. |
Would you mind describing the basic shape and process?
Or shooting a link if you have one handy? Searches aren't turning much up.
Also heard some suggestions about using crafting foam of some sort.
Thanks, _________________ Dave "Pinnah" Mann
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"It is impossible, or not easy, to do noble acts without the proper equipment."
Aristotle, <<Politics>>, 1323a-b, trans Jowett |
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turnfarmer
Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 89 Location: the farm
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:11 am Post subject: |
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There is a line of products named tacco that has a large variety of inserts with met pads. There are leather covered ones you can put right on top of your insole and vey low volume 3/4 length arch supports with met pads that work well in bike shoes. Tacco products are often sold in shoe repair shops, if not just search online. The problem with the standard blue poron met pads is that the poron is very grippy and must be covered or put on the bottom of your insert. Met pad placement is fussy, if it is too far back it doesn't help and too far forward can make things worse. Generally placement is just proximal to the center of the 3rd met head. Foot and ankle mobilization and Achilles stretching can do wonders for neuroma problems as the neuroma is often the symptom of another problem. Finding a practitioner to do this type of mobilization is the hard part.
In theory Chiropractors and PTs should be able to do this, but IME
very few of them do. |
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JohnF

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2173 Location: Syracuse, New York
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Here
More
Bike forums.
The bike forums link is interesting because it discusses strengthening the foot. |
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Jeff T

Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 612 Location: central MA
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:35 am Post subject: |
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I've run into foot/nerve issues from classic cross country skiing. I now seem to have a permanent neuropathy in the metatarsal region. The best footbed I have found to alleviate this is from Birkenstock. I used to wear them back in the day and I had an old pair laying around. They made a huge, positive difference when I put them back on again. They have a little rise at the metatarsal region and a solid arch and that really, really helps me.
Turns out they also have footbed insert. I picked up a pair for my classic boots and that made a world of difference. I can do a multi-hour event and still have feeling in my feet when I'm done. I suspect there is also to technique and stance work I can do to address this as well.
Maintenance for me these days means not putting pressure on the balls of the feet when sitting for extended times, wearing orthotics all the time - in all boots and shoes and foot massage. _________________ Every system is perfectly designed to achieve the results it gets. |
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Max Sidecut

Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 537 Location: Bainbridge Island, Wa
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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I explored a new route in Seattle on Friday with sights, scenes good food and a few surprises.
From the bridge to Beacon Hill. The historic, international route goes through Pioneer Square, China Town and Little Saigon.
Chief Sealth Trail runs from Beacon Hill to Rainier Valley.
Not a flat rail-trail, Sealth sinuously winds up and down rolling hills on power line right of way. At the bottom I hopped a train to the airport to continue the ride to Des Moines.
Bike to Des Moines Creek Trail and down to Anthony's for my annual memorial lunch at Mom's favorite restauant.
A pedestrian at a stop light near the airport had an interesting sword with carved handle and wooden scabbard. He told me about the Fantasy and Science Fiction costume event at the Double Tree Inn. Glad I checked it out.
This dude, with bigger sword, was happy to pose.
Darth Vader and a lot of witches were there too. This explains the 3 weird sisters I saw on the ferry that morning.
Rode the light rail back to town and biked down Westlake to the Ship Canal Trail which starts under the Fremont Bridge. This extension helped burn off the cioppino and hot fudge sundae.
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drjth

Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 184 Location: Bragg Creek, Alberta
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Check out this guy's bike:
http://500px.com/photo/6276618 _________________ "Men don't stop playing because they get old, they get old because they stop playing." George Bernard Shaw
According to my chem professor, alcohol is a solution! |
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Chamonix

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 1951 Location: VT near Jay Peak
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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My road ride, ready to go
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new handlebar tape,. derailleur all cleaned up, rear cogs and chain rings de-greased. new chain. May replace tires before I start longer rides. |
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