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Jim



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:51 am    Post subject: Is Utah next? Reply with quote

Had to drive in rush hour today. Mad

http://news.yahoo.com/zealand-yields-world-quirky-road-rules-031148380.html
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"... hugging a turn ..."

I have a habit of hugging my turns and yielding to the other's turn.

It is the direction of the rush that matters ...

-r
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I drive through Utah often heading to the southern part of the state. I always dread the section from Ogden to Spanish Fork, bleh.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw a funny bumper sticker the other day:

"You aren't stuck in traffic, you are traffic."
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Spokesman Andy Knackstedt said the agency is encouraging motorists to give a friendly wave when things go wrong. And to be clear, he said, a one-fingered wave doesn't count as friendly.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've come to the conclusion that traffic rules at Hill Air Force Base are the reason why typical right-of-way rules don't seem to apply in the Ogden area. I've been told that traffic at the HAFB intersections "take turns" with left hand turns, rather than yield to straight through traffic. That approach probably prevents frustration when 20,000 employees are all trying to leave the base at 4:00 p.m., but it causes confusion when it carries over onto City streets.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Utah, changing all the traffic lights to green would solve a lot of problems.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anybody told the sheep?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three words:

Round-a-bout. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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force vehicles hugging a turn at an intersection to yield to traffic making a wider arc across the intersection. New Zealanders drive on the left, but in the U.S. it would be like making right-turning traffic yield to left-turning traffic.

I have read this over and over and I cannot figure out what it means. Can someone explain better or draw me a picture or something?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 left feet wrote:
Can someone explain better or draw me a picture or something?

It's like this, but with sheep.

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KiteOzone



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seldom wrote:
I've come to the conclusion that traffic rules at Hill Air Force Base are the reason why typical right-of-way rules don't seem to apply in the Ogden area. I've been told that traffic at the HAFB intersections "take turns" with left hand turns, rather than yield to straight through traffic. That approach probably prevents frustration when 20,000 employees are all trying to leave the base at 4:00 p.m., but it causes confusion when it carries over onto City streets.


I worked there for 33 years and just recently retired. I can tell you that I never yielded to left turns because it was my opinion that giving someone the right of way when it isn't theirs just screws up the traffic flow. Having someone stop in the road ahead of you for no apparent reason can cause an accident. The main drag to get off base should keep moving instead of stopping to let someone make a left turn. That way the majority of the traffic moves faster. If you can't make a left hand turn safely then wait or go a different way.
Oh well I'm retired now and you can't get my blood pressure up. I went kiteskiing at Powder Mt twice this week and squirt boating (look it up) twice also.
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!ski



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oddly - New Zealand is the land of traffic circles so the issue described
never came up (though not that a reasonable left hand drive
would press it in a right hand drive world.)

Good lesson in the problem with traffic circles - work well enough
until there is a lot of traffic.

Actually - New Zealand was an extraordinarily pleasant place to drive.

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ed



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have driving rules?

I propose a new (non driving) rule: Legislators wear condoms when they f*ck us.
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