Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 17767 Location: following Diogenes, but the ba$tard threw away the lamp so I'm just stumbling along in the dark!
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:48 am Post subject:
s1am wrote:
robrox wrote:
s1am wrote:
I skied CRBs for a lot of years, on a lot of skis, with a lot of different 75mm bindings. Once set up right they work pretty well but they can be awfully fiddly to set up right. The only thing worse than having to use them would have been not having them to use.
I've got a few of them for sale if anyone is interested.
Got any 3-pin Hardwire plates for CRB?
Not sure exactly what part you are looking for. Do you mean the base plate? The adapter plate that lets you mount a three hole binding into a CRB? The 3-pin hardwire binding that snaps into a CRB setup?
Yep, that last one. If anybody has a pair they are willing to part with.
If that setup can't be found, I'll look for a regular 3-Pin Hardwires and mount them on the adapter plates that came with the release kit...it may be hefty, but this setup would be for my resort skis... _________________ "Moderate is not the new Low" - Chris Joosen, USFS Lead Snow Ranger (Tuckerman Ravine, White Mountains National Forest)
Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 17767 Location: following Diogenes, but the ba$tard threw away the lamp so I'm just stumbling along in the dark!
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:44 pm Post subject:
s1am wrote:
Sorry, I do not have any of those.
'sokay, thanks!
GearEx can have my biz any time. _________________ "Moderate is not the new Low" - Chris Joosen, USFS Lead Snow Ranger (Tuckerman Ravine, White Mountains National Forest)
Have you seen the buried alive shows rob? ha ha
Gotta be some of those plates in there ..somewhere!
_________________ Speak and remove all doubt..
No one cares that you CAN'T tele!
Joined: 19 Feb 2011 Posts: 333 Location: Colorado, USA
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:12 pm Post subject:
vdrifter,
For situations like in that picture, our SOP has been to invite a bunch of folks over -- then we are "forced" to clean the mess BEFORE they arrive.
For folks with more helpful friends or better management skills, perhaps only invites would be needed. Could be a great "friendship" test. Bet you could get RobRox to come.
Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 17767 Location: following Diogenes, but the ba$tard threw away the lamp so I'm just stumbling along in the dark!
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:20 pm Post subject:
Starik wrote:
vdrifter,
For situations like in that picture, our SOP has been to invite a bunch of folks over -- then we are "forced" to clean the mess BEFORE they arrive.
For folks with more helpful friends or better management skills, perhaps only invites would be needed. Could be a great "friendship" test. Bet you could get RobRox to come.
Starik
Careful what you wish for...before Mrs Rox came into my life I was a non-aquistive neat-freak, daily gardener, diy maven, etc.
I will work for Pizza and Beer but I am utterly ruthless when it comes to clearouts! Forget bagsters, get a dumpster!
...and more pizza and beer, this could take a while _________________ "Moderate is not the new Low" - Chris Joosen, USFS Lead Snow Ranger (Tuckerman Ravine, White Mountains National Forest)
For situations like in that picture, our SOP has been to invite a bunch of folks over -- then we are "forced" to clean the mess BEFORE they arrive.
For folks with more helpful friends or better management skills, perhaps only invites would be needed. Could be a great "friendship" test. Bet you could get RobRox to come.
Starik
Careful what you wish for...before Mrs Rox came into my life I was a non-aquistive neat-freak, daily gardener, diy maven, etc.
I will work for Pizza and Beer but I am utterly ruthless when it comes to clearouts! Forget bagsters, get a dumpster!
...and more pizza and beer, this could take a while
You don't sound like
much of a
recycler!
Well, we all recycle
one way or another.. _________________ Speak and remove all doubt..
No one cares that you CAN'T tele!
Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 17767 Location: following Diogenes, but the ba$tard threw away the lamp so I'm just stumbling along in the dark!
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:39 pm Post subject:
vdrifter11 wrote:
robrox wrote:
Starik wrote:
vdrifter,
For situations like in that picture, our SOP has been to invite a bunch of folks over -- then we are "forced" to clean the mess BEFORE they arrive.
For folks with more helpful friends or better management skills, perhaps only invites would be needed. Could be a great "friendship" test. Bet you could get RobRox to come.
Starik
Careful what you wish for...before Mrs Rox came into my life I was a non-aquistive neat-freak, daily gardener, diy maven, etc.
I will work for Pizza and Beer but I am utterly ruthless when it comes to clearouts! Forget bagsters, get a dumpster!
...and more pizza and beer, this could take a while
You don't sound like
much of a
recycler!
Well, we all recycle
one way or another..
1-800-GOT-JUNK will handle all the recycling _________________ "Moderate is not the new Low" - Chris Joosen, USFS Lead Snow Ranger (Tuckerman Ravine, White Mountains National Forest)
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 1686 Location: North Ogden, Ut or upstate NY
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:19 pm Post subject:
I can't understand why people are concerned about the demise of the CRB. After all it is just a remake of the Besser binding from the early 1970's that sold for $40 -$50 per pair. In fact, some of the first Voile versions just put a tape with the name Voile over the Besser name engraved/impressed into the cylinder. The binding failed in the alpine world because it was junk. Not DIN checkable, the release pressure would (and still does) change, and very "explodable" at times. Maybe because it was cheap the dirtbag telemarkers of the era picked up on it, but it's still junk. Just my opinion based on my experience with it. _________________ You know it's a good day when you wake up in the morning.
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 4417 Location: Ice Coast
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:31 pm Post subject:
Jim wrote:
I can't understand why people are concerned about the demise of the CRB. After all it is just a remake of the Besser binding from the early 1970's that sold for $40 -$50 per pair. In fact, some of the first Voile versions just put a tape with the name Voile over the Besser name engraved/impressed into the cylinder. The binding failed in the alpine world because it was junk. Not DIN checkable, the release pressure would (and still does) change, and very "explodable" at times. Maybe because it was cheap the dirtbag telemarkers of the era picked up on it, but it's still junk. Just my opinion based on my experience with it.
Jim, BIG difference between the two. The newer CRBs are solid, no prerelease when set right, and I've certainly never heard of them exploding.
Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Posts: 483 Location: Southern Alberta
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:24 pm Post subject:
Interestingly enough, while skiing on a pair of CRB's (which I like very much) and doing the typical tele wipeout of which I am known for; on the release of the binding, I also exerted enough pressure on the back of the toe plate to strip out the screws on the friction plate, the grey pad that the rear of the toe plate hooks into. This allowed the binding to not securely remount onto the crb base. Had to ski verrry gingerly the rest of the route down and then call it a day. In the shop at home did try tightening the screws (they are accessed by taking the crb release plate off the ski) but the damage was done, and the friction pad had to be replaced. That happen to anyone else? _________________ Keep it wild
I can't understand why people are concerned about the demise of the CRB. After all it is just a remake of the Besser binding from the early 1970's that sold for $40 -$50 per pair. In fact, some of the first Voile versions just put a tape with the name Voile over the Besser name engraved/impressed into the cylinder. The binding failed in the alpine world because it was junk. Not DIN checkable, the release pressure would (and still does) change, and very "explodable" at times. Maybe because it was cheap the dirtbag telemarkers of the era picked up on it, but it's still junk. Just my opinion based on my experience with it.
I think it's one of those situations where an odd solution (the Besser plate) finally found a problem it could solve, if not well, at least better than all other attempts.
I think releasable tele bindings pose tremendous challenges. You have such a tiny, force concentrating platform and then you ask for both reliable release and avoidance of pre-release under hard charging. Until 7TM, I don't think anybody got even close to providing workable release for tele bindings.
I've had reasonably good luck with them. I don't push them hard though, far from it. I don't ski bumps and am not a hard charger anymore (used to ski MRRs set nice and high but that was then). _________________ Dave "Pinnah" Mann
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