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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:50 pm Post subject: "Game Change" HBO tonight
From SaraPAC.com:
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Here they go again...
Posted on February 17, 2012
"I haven't seen HBO's latest effort at manipulating history. However, based upon the description and reports from people who have viewed the film Game Change, HBO has distorted, twisted and invented facts to create a false narrative and attract viewers. They call it a docu-drama, there is little "docu" in it. HBO must add a disclaimer that this movie is fiction." -Tim Crawford, Treasurer SarahPAC
Pay channel HBO has produced another docudrama based on the political arena. This time it is a subscription-only television movie sensationalizing 40 pages of a three-year-old book about the 2008 presidential election. The real 2008 Election was an incredible, moving experience that brought together the nation to celebrate our democracy. HBO has taken that experience and twisted it into tabloid drama for its own profit.
The docudrama Game Change has not been released, but the content and clips available and scenes as reported by the media make it clear that HBO studio heads decided they would generate more profit by inventing facts and scenes for the purpose of fictionalizing a history written by people with no personal knowledge of the situations they attempt to depict.
After viewing the Game Change trailers purporting to show actual events from the campaign, we sifted through over 2,000 behind-the-scenes photos of actual events, people and moments.
Below is an inside look at those moments which were captured from September to November 2008 and encompass over 95 rallies in 19 states, three major policy speeches, numerous town halls, four meetings with Blue Star Moms, two hockey games and as many unscheduled stops as we were able to fit in the schedule.
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Statement on Game Change
Posted on March 07, 2012
Despite HBO's best efforts, we have all seen the movie Game Change. We stand by everything we previously said on the record. The movie is at best "historical fiction" - historical only in that Sarah Palin was nominated and campaigned for the office of Vice President. The movie is a series of scenes where the dialogue, locations and participants are invented or rendered unrecognizable for dramatic effect. HBO and its surrogates continue to argue that they spoke to 25 sources. None of them are on the record nor is their level of involvement in the campaign disclosed. Not one source is on the record in either the book or in the movie and it is clear why. The authors of the book never even traveled on the campaign with Governor Palin. We call on HBO to add the fiction disclaimer.
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Linkey Linkie HERE _________________ Il n'y a que moi qui a toujours raison.
BF's French lady.
The lady and the paid minions on her staff doth protest too much.
No HBO. We don't have any tv except a couple of channels off the air which are bounced into the valley via translators....with an analog signal no less. We're so far in the boonies they didn't even bother trying to pipe that digital signal thingie into here. So, I'll just have to find a way to watch it somewhere one of these days.
Read somewhere that it's being rebroadcast twice tomorrow, then every day for the rest of March and half a dozen days in April.
Here's an extremely Anti-Palin blog site from the Wasilla area which I will be checking in with this evening to catch updates and comments.
In turn, Moore, directed by Jay Roach, has aced the immodest task of humanizing the media beast called Sarah Palin. The real Palin (an ignoramus who condemned this nonideological film sight unseen) is a born star; Moore’s Palin is a victim of American politics, just like us. The performance is so compassionate that anyone with an imagination will feel her terror as a deer in the Klieg lights of the national stage. A militant atheist could admire this Palin’s religious faith. Moore makes a good liberal’s heart bleed. ...
... The scenes that will clinch Moore’s Emmy are in the second act. As it becomes apparent to McCain’s team, via briefing sessions, that she is a know-nothing, they prep her on hot-button foreign policy issues—informing her that we fought Germany in two world wars, for instance. Here, Moore’s Palin takes notes with a diligence that at once enriches the farce and deepens the tragedy. After it becomes apparent to the world, via Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric, that she is a know-nothing, the camera tightens on Moore’s face at canted angles during subsequent tantrums, and we understand her resentment and paranoia. ...
...When she does do well, she shifts modes, and so does the film. Schmidt calls her "the best actress in American politics,” and if you have spent much time with actresses, then you know that, sometimes, their egos become engorged when they read their own reviews.
With that taste of victory, Moore transforms again into a diva/demagogue/rogue. She had been a flawed human; now she’s a political animal. Someone needs to juxtapose footage of a) Moore’s Palin dabbing an impatient finger at her face to apply makeup before a rally and b) Moore’s Amber Waves making a similar gesture while on a coke run with Rollergirl. These are women filled by hollow needs.
Spoiler alert: Obama wins. Palin wants to go rogue and give a concession speech. Schmidt explains that such a thing has never happened in American history and that McCain will deliver a concession speech worthy of the occasion: “It's not about you. It's about the country.” But we already know that she, like most people, knows nothing of history, so why should it surprise us that she doesn’t understand? McCain’s parting words to her—an admonition that she not ally herself with “Limbaugh and the other extremists”—is perhaps the most gruesomely ironic line of dialogue delivered down the somewhat arduous home stretch.
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:45 pm Post subject:
So I watched it and it seemed to portray Sarah precisely for what she is: Batshit Crazy
It shows the facade that is the public image of Sarah but it also shows the behind the scenes right wing nut job illogical incoherent side that any thinking person knows is there.
It is nice to see someone other than Sarah Palin making money off Sarah Palin.
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ABC News
While Sarah Palin has denounced the HBO docudrama "Game Change" about her rise to national stardom during the 2008 presidential campaign as a "false narrative," one of Palin's top advisers said today that the film was actually "true enough to make me squirm."
Nicolle Wallace, a Republican strategist and senior adviser to the McCain-Palin 2008 campaign, was one of Palin's main handlers during that whirlwind presidential campaign four years ago. She is played by Sarah Paulson in the 30-minute HBO film.
"This is a movie about the vast gray area where 99 percent of our politics actually takes place," Wallace said today on "This Week." "You're just feeling your way though a gray area and doing your best and that campaign was one of those instances for me."
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:01 am Post subject:
Watching it for the second time. Unfortunately, it is more depressing than entertaining. Kudos for presenting McCain and Palin as both very human, understandable, and compassionate human beings.
Astute readers of this forum may recall this poster held a Palin Bingo party the night of the VP debate. And I very much remember being impressed by her performance...that she did not come across as a huge idiot like I expected. The movie has an explanation for this.
Wow. If what the movie says is true - and I suspect it is very much true - that is very, very frightening.
The news media may be commercial crapchasers 99% of the time, but every now and then they hit a grand slam. I refer to the Couric interview finally showing the true Palin, not the scripted puppet Palin. _________________ Other vegetables have a hard time competing with potatoes.
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:03 am Post subject:
"When you lose the moral high ground to Dick Cheney, you really need to rethink your life." _________________ Other vegetables have a hard time competing with potatoes.
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:21 am Post subject:
Baaahb wrote:
The news media may be commercial crapchasers 99% of the time, but every now and then they hit a grand slam. I refer to the Couric interview finally showing the true Palin, not the scripted puppet Palin.
That is why a free press is essential in a democracy. We carp about "the media", justifiably, much of the time, but sometimes we need it.
The news media may be commercial crapchasers 99% of the time, but every now and then they hit a grand slam. I refer to the Couric interview finally showing the true Palin, not the scripted puppet Palin.
That is why a free press is essential in a democracy. We carp about "the media", justifiably, much of the time, but sometimes we need it.
Agreed, but let's not conflate "the media" with journalism.
Let's also recognize that the production and distribution side of "the media" cannot replace the need for a consumption side comprised of an informed citizenry demanding quality journalism in the best sense of the term.
There's nothing inherently wrong with corporate-media-tainment per se, but there's a nasty reconing awaiting societies which confuse its products with journalistic substance and which use them for the wrong purpose. It's not all together unlike a cardio patient confusing snickers, pizza, and Ben & Jerry's with Lipitor.
"The Media" cooked up and served, and society at-large agreed to swallow, a mythical, iconic caricature of a candidate for what can become - in a heart beat - an extremely important position.
The HBO movie “Game Change” drew 2.1 million viewers Saturday night at 9 PM, making it the most watched HBO original movie in eight years.
That does not include replays, which boosted the viewership even higher. Over the course of the entire weekend “Game Change was viewed by 3.6 million viewers.
I watched this movie. Its pretty good. Its authenticity has been validated. This video of McCain at campaign event is recounted in the film (hard to put a spin on this). I think this sums a lot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c-Ijky95dc
That was a great and noble thing to do and probably cost him politically and sums up some of the difference between him and other GOP political leaders. Palin did not do the same. I think McCain would have made a great president. His choice of running mate was poor and unfortunate.
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:00 am Post subject:
miked wrote:
I watched this movie. Its pretty good. Its authenticity has been validated. This video of McCain at campaign event is recounted in the film (hard to put a spin on this). I think this sums a lot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c-Ijky95dc
That was a great and noble thing to do and probably cost him politically and sums up some of the difference between him and other GOP political leaders. Palin did not do the same. I think McCain would have made a great president. His choice of running mate was poor and unfortunate.
There was a time that I felt as though I would have been OK with McCain as POTUS. Not thrilled mind you, I wouldn't have voted for him over Barack Obama, but I would have been OK. Then of course he chose Sarah Palin and I think a lot of people were like me and became alarmed at the prospect of having someone like her as VPOTUS. I understand McCain's dilemma of needing to appeal to the far right, but IMO putting Sarah Palin on the ticket sealed his doom. _________________ Creeds and doctrines are like a raft to get you to the other shore and then to relinquish. Neither cling to the raft or reject it when drowning. Even better, become a strong swimmer.
Shakyamuni Buddha. The diamond sutra
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:21 am Post subject:
hutguy wrote:
There was a time that I felt as though I would have been OK with McCain as POTUS. Not thrilled mind you, I wouldn't have voted for him over Barack Obama, but I would have been OK. Then of course he chose Sarah Palin and I think a lot of people were like me and became alarmed at the prospect of having someone like her as VPOTUS. I understand McCain'd dilemma of needing to appeal to the far right, but IMO putting Sarah Palin on the ticket sealed his doom.
The Palin pick showed two things, his lack of judgement and his caving into political expediency. Still, compared to the current crop McCain doesn't look half bad.
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:06 pm Post subject:
skookumchuck wrote:
The Palin pick showed two things, his lack of judgement and his caving into political expediency. Still, compared to the current crop McCain doesn't look half bad.
Yeah, I'm sure McCain would love to have that one back. "Doh! What was I thinking?" _________________ Creeds and doctrines are like a raft to get you to the other shore and then to relinquish. Neither cling to the raft or reject it when drowning. Even better, become a strong swimmer.
Haven't seen it yet but dvr'd it for viewing at some point soon.
As far as that whole election... i always felt that reading between the lines would tell you that putting McCain in as the nominee was acceptable to the R.'s because they didn't want the office (let's not forget how much of a 'maverick' he was prior to that election), putting Palin in as his running mate was just insurance that he didn't somehow pull off a win.
Of course i believed that the D.'s didn't want the office either when they trotted Kerry out there.
Do i have faith that everything is as it appears when it comes to our electoral process?
Am i one step from being a tin hatted conspiracy theorist?
Do you really think the underlying string pullers would have 'allowed' a minority president to become the reality unless he/she was being thrown into a toilet bowl situation?
I'm thinking the R.'s really don't want a win this go around either. _________________
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