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Neckbert
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 Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:14 am Post subject: Barack Obama is responsible |
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Soldiers urinating on the Koran?
Another goes on a killing spree?
Before that, soldiers take photos of dead Taliban trophy kills.
Sounds a lot like a pattern of behavior. Sounds like Abu Grahib.
So why doesn't the NYTimes publish pictures of the Afghan victims like they did of Abu Grahib? How about every day for 22 days on the front page? Regardless of national security.
Where are all the viscious liberal politicians who publically cruicified our country just to get at Bush? Where is NPR and the BBC leading the charge against Obama as a war criminal for this?
No. Obama gets a free pass. (Except from twopass).
My ass.
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skifreeK
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:22 am Post subject: |
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Inherited shitpile vs. going waaaaaaaay out of your way to cherry pick, cook, serve, consume, and regurgitate false intel?
False Equivalency Extremus.
Conflation Maximus.
Fail.
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Neckbert
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:41 am Post subject: |
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Yes indeed, there is always an excuse for Obama.
He can do no wrong in the eyes of his followers.
Right skifreeK?
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skifreeK
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:43 am Post subject: |
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| Neckbert wrote: | Yes indeed, there is always an excuse for Obama.
He can do no wrong in the eyes of his followers.
Right skifreeK?
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No.
Absolutely wrong.
You just pick bullshit to pick on.
Teleprompters?
WTF is wrong with you people? |
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stevesliva
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| Gosh Neckbert, it sure seems you came here to gloat about a bunch of dead afghans. |
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hutguy
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Necky, you really shouldn't post when drunk.
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chemman
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Irreguardless of your stupid bull shit Neckberry,
Obama is responsible, ha hell of a lot more responsible than the last batch of conservative blame it one everybody else dumb asses that he took over from. He admits it is his fault. Even when it is not.
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Baaahb
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Barack Obama is responsible |
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| Neckbert wrote: | Soldiers urinating on the Koran?
Another goes on a killing spree?
Before that, soldiers take photos of dead Taliban trophy kills.
Sounds a lot like a pattern of behavior. Sounds like Abu Grahib.
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a. you are comparing urinating on the koran to mistreatment of prisoners? really?
b. you think that there wasn't shit load of pissing on the koran etc etc that went unreported during the irag invasion, when there were more important things to report on? (see a.) really?
c. I don't recall Bush ever getting blamed for wackos going wacko under his watch. wackos are wackos.
d. trophy photos? see a. and b. above
Are you sure you're not related to The Sarah?
P.S. you're doing a great job of validating my opinion of modern-day Republicans.
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gen x tele
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Obama could high mark
and post hole skin tracks. The COEXIST slobs in here would fall over themselves at the occasion.
| Code: | | President Barack Obama's 3 January 2011 letter introducing his national security strategy for the coming decade states that America's overriding goals are "security", "prosperity" and a "just and sustainable international order where the rights and responsibilities of nations and peoples are upheld, especially the fundamental rights of every human being." |
reality:
"The difference? Obama's policy kills innocent bystanders."
"It's Bush's fault!"
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SteveK
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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gennyx, you're slipping - do we need more government, or is it Bush's fault?
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chugach001
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: Barack Obama is responsible |
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c. I don't recall Bush ever getting blamed for wackos going wacko under his watch. wackos are wackos. |
I think that Bush was painted with the misdeeds of whackos at AbuGraib more so than Obama is being painted with the recent misdeeds. And, in general, that horrid President GWB got blamed for vastly more than the incompetent promiser of hope and change. Gitmo created an incessant wailing cry from the left under Bush but the same Gitmo renders hardly a peep now from the left.
Even with this..."...On March 7, 2011 President Obama has given the green light to resume military trials, conducted by military officers, with a military judge presiding, of terror suspects detained at Guantánamo Bay.[246] He also signed an executive order that moved to set into law the already existing practice on Guantánamo of holding detainees indefinitely without charge" Wikipedia
But, no worries; "In a February 2012 poll, under President Obama's leadership, 70% of Americans (53% liberal Democrats and 67% moderate or conservative Democrats) replied they approve the continued operation of Guantanamo.[231]" Wikipedia.
It's rarely about the deeds but more about who is doing them. Republican's like Republican debts, Democrats like Democratic judicial overreach.
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chemman
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Barack Obama is responsible |
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You are nutz. Do we still openly torture suspected terrorists? Water board much?
GWB should be on trial for war crimes. He destroyed this country's good reputation and good and stable economy, from which we will be generations recovering, if ever. It is not the same, you are correct, orders of magnatude different!
| chugach001 wrote: | | Baaahb wrote: |
c. I don't recall Bush ever getting blamed for wackos going wacko under his watch. wackos are wackos. |
I think that Bush was painted with the misdeeds of whackos at AbuGraib more so than Obama is being painted with the recent misdeeds. And, in general, that horrid President GWB got blamed for vastly more than the incompetent promiser of hope and change. Gitmo created an incessant wailing cry from the left under Bush but the same Gitmo renders hardly a peep now from the left.
Even with this..."...On March 7, 2011 President Obama has given the green light to resume military trials, conducted by military officers, with a military judge presiding, of terror suspects detained at Guantánamo Bay.[246] He also signed an executive order that moved to set into law the already existing practice on Guantánamo of holding detainees indefinitely without charge" Wikipedia
But, no worries; "In a February 2012 poll, under President Obama's leadership, 70% of Americans (53% liberal Democrats and 67% moderate or conservative Democrats) replied they approve the continued operation of Guantanamo.[231]" Wikipedia.
It's rarely about the deeds but more about who is doing them. Republican's like Republican debts, Democrats like Democratic judicial overreach.
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It is much more palatable to detain if you are not torturing.
btw the General said it was OK to be a whacko to the prisoners, and the President said it was ok to Render.
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Neckbert
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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I think you guys misunderstand my point.
Obama is no more responsible for the recent Afghan attrocity than Bush was for abuses in some Iraq dungeon by a few people.
But Obama gets a free pass every time, even though his response to this crisis is flat-footed, just like every response he musters.
All talk. No leadership.
BTW: We all know now that enhanced interogations were 100% legal and justified.
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chemman
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| Neckbert wrote: | I think you guys misunderstand my point.
Obama is no more responsible for the recent Afghan attrocity than Bush was for abuses in some Iraq dungeon by a few people.
But Obama gets a free pass every time, even though his response to this crisis is flat-footed, just like every response he musters.
All talk. No leadership.
BTW: We all know now that enhanced interogations were 100% legal and justified.
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Come on Neckbert You know the General approved of the abuse until they got caught. I bet you and the perpetrators stall laugh your asses off when you bust out the old "Yearbook"
And for the "Enhanced Techniques" that are now illegal you should refer to what they really are: TERRORIST TORTURE
(Doesn't it make it sound better, or at-least justified, when you put it that way?)
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skookumchuck
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:42 am Post subject: Re: Barack Obama is responsible |
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| chugach001 wrote: | | Baaahb wrote: |
c. I don't recall Bush ever getting blamed for wackos going wacko under his watch. wackos are wackos. |
I think that Bush was painted with the misdeeds of whackos at AbuGraib more so than Obama is being painted with the recent misdeeds. And, in general, that horrid President GWB got blamed for vastly more than the incompetent promiser of hope and change. Gitmo created an incessant wailing cry from the left under Bush but the same Gitmo renders hardly a peep now from the left.
Even with this..."...On March 7, 2011 President Obama has given the green light to resume military trials, conducted by military officers, with a military judge presiding, of terror suspects detained at Guantánamo Bay.[246] He also signed an executive order that moved to set into law the already existing practice on Guantánamo of holding detainees indefinitely without charge" Wikipedia
But, no worries; "In a February 2012 poll, under President Obama's leadership, 70% of Americans (53% liberal Democrats and 67% moderate or conservative Democrats) replied they approve the continued operation of Guantanamo.[231]" Wikipedia.
It's rarely about the deeds but more about who is doing them. Republican's like Republican debts, Democrats like Democratic judicial overreach.
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Obama scaled back on the Bush era policies of torture and indefiniite internment - but not as much as he had promised. Yes it is wrong and immoral and un-American but nobody appears to care any more and there are no votes in it.
Repubs still say Obama is a Kenyan muslim commie, and by the way "Democrat judicial overreach" were all Repub policies originally. |
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