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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:53 pm    Post subject: Old-style skins on new-style skis? Reply with quote

Another dumb question from a guy with a cellar full of obsolete but still useable equipment:

I've got these new K2 Backup skis, but no skins yet.

I have a perfectly good set of 50mm skins that fit my narrow-tipped Karhu XCDs.

Is there a way I could adapt these old-style skins to fit my new-style skis?

--Joe
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Old-style skins on new-style skis? Reply with quote

Oldpinner wrote:
Another dumb question from a guy with a cellar full of obsolete but still useable equipment:

I've got these new K2 Backup skis, but no skins yet.

I have a perfectly good set of 50mm skins that fit my narrow-tipped Karhu XCDs.

Is there a way I could adapt these old-style skins to fit my new-style skis?

--Joe


Not for anything steep, but you could shuffle along the flatter stuff. The other problem would be retrofitting the tip attachment to work with your new skis.

In a nutshell, you need wider skins.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Consider making them spit-skins. Put a longitudinal cut the lenght of the skins allowing the skins to go to the edges of ski. Bit more traction when side-hilling.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need wider skins.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

50 mm is pretty narrow, so you need new skins. But, you need to go about getting them the right way. If you just buy some new skins they will seem expensive. So go out first using the old skins. Skin something steep. Steep enough so you are back sliding a lot and falling down. Go with people who have wider skins, so you have trouble keeping up. After that buy new skins. They will seem cheap. This always works for me.

(This method also works for those expensive camming units used for climbing. Lead out on a route that does not otherwise have good pro, and scare yourself good. After that, those units will be cheap.)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

50mm is pretty close to thong skin size on those skis. Great for making time on the flats w/o the drag of full size skins, but will suck rocks for going up anything remotely steep.

Thong skins are handy things to have, but you still need closer to full size skins.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just tell your wife that if you use these skins, you will have to wear a thong while skiing. When she gives you a perplexed look, just shrug your shoulders and inform her that's what they said on the internet. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:27 pm    Post subject: Thanks. Reply with quote

OK, these answers were not surprising--but I thought I would float this question.

Thanks everybody. You've answered my dumb question with very lucid responses.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you really want to use your old skins you could use these
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:47 pm    Post subject: Yeah, that was what I was thinking Reply with quote

Tele-axel wrote:
If you really want to use your old skins you could use these


I had something like that in mind. After reading your unanimous answers, I think it's time to contact Climbing Skins Direct,

Might as well keep the skinny skins for the skinny skis and lace-up leather boots. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OGE has some 100mm Mohair mix skins for only $105 - I'm not sure the length. They'll be narrower than ideal for your new skis, but will work significantly better than your old ones - if they are the right length.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By "old style" do you mean actually made out of seals?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:19 pm    Post subject: Not that old Reply with quote

aqua_toque wrote:
By "old style" do you mean actually made out of seals?


I think those skins are only legal in Canada. Confused

Seriously, CSD has some that are affordable.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're looking now, look for sales. gearx.com often has deals on skins, looks like they have some good prices now on BD skins. And they are good people.

I have never used CSD skins, but durability and glue quality of BD skins get high marks from most users, so I think of them as the de facto standard.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

polemonium wrote:
If you're looking now, look for sales. gearx.com often has deals on skins, looks like they have some good prices now on BD skins. And they are good people.

I have never used CSD skins, but durability and glue quality of BD skins get high marks from most users, so I think of them as the de facto standard.
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