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Hacksaw
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 3488 Location: Golden CO
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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christian ) wrote: | | If you feel the need to anchor in a safe zone, I suggest you reevaluate your terrain evaluation. |
I agree...
Only a few times in my CAIC days did I do any "Belayed Snowpit" work. _________________ "Its all fun and games until someone gets hurt, then its a sport."
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Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 1599 Location: Tell you if we ride together
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:40 am Post subject: |
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Zooooom
That's the sound of something going right over some people's heads _________________ If you are doing less than loving whatever you are giving your attention to, you are not who you were really born to be. |
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French For Cant Tele

Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 5123 Location: Mammoth Lakes (sometimes)
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Don't worry about safe zones, make sure that you have a safe word. _________________
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J
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 3023 Location: Cdv-PWS
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:40 am Post subject: |
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You're think'n safety with current issues...what it's all about!
Now, just put some line in your pack and know you will use it sooner than your beacon and quit fretting. At the least you'll sit on a warmer, line, lined lunch seat next lunch break. |
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Hacksaw
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 3488 Location: Golden CO
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| <<(db)>> wrote: | Zooooom
That's the sound of something going right over some people's heads |
Interesting comment.....  _________________ "Its all fun and games until someone gets hurt, then its a sport."
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Tele Till You're Smelly

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 3202 Location: Betwixt the Silvers and Saint Johns
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| <<(db)>> wrote: | | [ like your Alice's restaurant reference! |
Alison Wonderland?
OP- Are you saying we should rope up for the 20 seconds we stop at each spot as we descend? Seems like the time it would take to rope up & off is equal to more than the time I would spend there unroped. But I hope your meaning has not been lost or misconstrued? _________________ Reluctant enthusiast, part-time crusader, half-hearted fanatic |
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cesare

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 13194 Location: People's Republic
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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There is nothing wrong with using anchors per se. But I agree with Hacksaw and Christian that the stated objective of using one on a tree in an island of safety means there is something wrong with your evaluation of what is an island of safety. Just because it's a tree... even a big, old growth specimen, doesn't mean it is a safe location from avalanche. And the idea that you would want to have additional protection or insurance underscores their point. If it is truly an island of safety, and not just relatively and marginally less dangerous, you shouldn't need it. If you need it, it's not an island of safety. _________________ that sounds like a sure-fire way to get bitch-slapped by devil's club -- dschane |
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Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 1599 Location: Tell you if we ride together
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Alice's Restaurant, group W bench per granpa's location; either it is familiar or not based on age
I'm not promoting anything; consider it or ignore it; just thinking outside the box after all these years; for me personally, in a year like this, with my comfort level with ropes, I can flash a quick extra bit of insurance and pull it back just as quick; I like it; I'm going to start doing it _________________ If you are doing less than loving whatever you are giving your attention to, you are not who you were really born to be. |
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Hacksaw
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 3488 Location: Golden CO
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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If you where in British Columbia (they have all the snow), and stood close enough to "anchor off to it" you'd fall into the treewell around the tree....  _________________ "Its all fun and games until someone gets hurt, then its a sport."
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Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 1599 Location: Tell you if we ride together
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Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Yup. Tree wells. Don't like em. Not one bit.
Next chance I get my plan is to experiment with tossing a line down hill from upside a tree, crank a 180 around the tree come to a halt downside tree where my tossed line lies
I have no intention of hugging a tree; all that accomplishes is 1. Treewell risk and 2. Coat myself in sap
Whole maneuver should happen without me even getting close to tree
Cranking around tree to halt facing partners. Doin that anyway.
No offense to tree huggers intended. _________________ If you are doing less than loving whatever you are giving your attention to, you are not who you were really born to be. |
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aqua_toque

Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 3066 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| After the fine work you did in the field of nested quotes we look forward to following developments in island hopping with anchors. |
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