2012 Movement ski reivew

James · Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 6983 Location: Castle Rock, CO

I have had the chance to ski most of the 2012 Movement skis. This review will cover the Scoop, Trust, Super Turbo and Fly Swatter. I have skied some of the other skis but not enough to comment. I will add more through out the year. Fair warning I rep for Movement but will try to be honest in my assessment. At the bottom of the page are pictures that show the tip and tail profiles. As far as me I am a 51 year old PSIA level 3 telemark instructor at A-Basin. I have some skill but do not huck big cliffs or appear in any movies.

For more info. on skis go here.

http://movementskispr.blogspot.com/p/products.html

Details

Boots used: TX Comp and Pro
Bindings used: NTN blue 4
How many days on the skis: Several or more
Resort or backcountry: Both depending on ski
Geographical region: Colorado
Tell us about the terrain you ski: All over
Do you know how the skis were tuned (bevel): one and one
How long have you been skiing: 45 years 32 tele
How many days a year: 75
How big are you: 6' 3" 190 pounds
Mostly tele or parallel: Tele

Scoop.
180 length 132-102-122

The Scoop is an early rise and full twin tip ski with normal camber. It is a softer ski. At 21 meters it is a mid radius ski that will turn very easily and quickly due the the softer flex and very short running length. It is a great ski for soft bumps and soft snow of any kind. It is also light for its size and was my main spring corn ski last year. It is much more fun then I thought it would be considering it is not stiff. It does have a speed limit on groomers and I did over power the ski a few times at speed in steeper couloirs. I had a lot of fun skiing these switch especially in BC corn snow. If I could only have one one ski this would be it for width and profile but I would like them a little stiffer

Trust
186 length 141-108-129

The Trust is a moderate tip rocker ski with a mostly flat and square tail with normal camber. It is on the stiffer side especially in the mid section and tail. I could not find a speed limit on this ski. At 21 meters it is a mid radius ski that will turn very quickly for its length and also ski much larger turns at speed. For turn shape and speed I think it is the best all around tip rocker ski in the line. I skied it in Loveland powder, back country powder and spring corn. It was fun in all of these but best making mid radius turns in powder. It is on the heavy and damp side so it would not be my choice for a BC only or mostly ski. On groomers it carves very nicely at any speed. If I could only own two skis one would be normal camber all mountain and the other would be the Trust.
If they could make this ski lighter I think it would be the perfect Colorado BC ski.

Super Turbo
192 length 144-115-129

The Super Turbo is my favorite fun shape ski of all time. It is tip rocker with a partial twin tip and normal camber. It is a med stiff ski especially in the mid section and tail. At 22 meters it is also a mid radius ski in shape but in reality more of a large radius ski that will turn mid radius if you want. It is what I think of as a true freeride ski. In powder or more challenging crud or wind hammered this ski shines. I had several days of typical Loveland wind hammered or mid density bottomless last year and found myself turning up the speed and making big effortless arcs. It would not be my choice of ski to ski zipper line bumps. On groomers it is very fun to carve GS turns at speed. Because of weight I only skied this ski at the resort.

Fly Swatter
185 cm length 150-125-145

The Fly Swatter is a full tip and tail rocker normal camber ski with a lot of splay (the vertical rise of the tips off the snow) They are on the softer side. These skis are for the deep days. They ski very short and turn very quickly. It is hard for me to get them to make larger turns. They are fun in soft steep runs or bumps. They will also carve short radius turns on groomers. They have a speed limit in both powder and groomers. I think this is large quiver ski for Utah fluff in short turn radius conditions. They are to heavy for me to haul in the BC but I know some who do.

All of these ski are mounted on the line except the Fly Swatter. I am still working these out but they ski best around -4cm.

If you have any questions or comments please let me know.

I added in the BD Voodoo below to compare to a normal camber ski.

irishbarry · Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:53 pm Post subject:

nice, always been a movement fan, but restricted so far to their traditional shapes (with a bit of early rise here and there).

Regarding the Super Turbo, you're a pretty big guy but stuck with the 192 - how was that length? I'm just about 6'0 but a heavier 250, should i be looking at the 202?

James · Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 6983 Location: Castle Rock, CO

I have 200 Lotus 120 so I did not want another ski that long. As far for you that depends. Obviously you could go longer then me due to your size. You will not over power the 192 and it will ski very large turns. I have not skied the 202 so this is speculation but I think a 202 would be ok if you prefer to ski open bowls and larger turns at speed. Skiing in bumps or trees on a 202 would be a lot to handle. I would also not want a 202 ski to be my only fat fun shape ski.

I am not a small person but I think it would be hard to truly understand how much an extra 60 pounds would effect the performance I get out of a ski. I think I know a fair bit about skis and how they perform but when a 110 pound person asks about a ski I generally don't respond for the same reason

Gwen · Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Posts: 3037

Thank you James for putting up this review. I settled on the Trust for my big snow days. I will mount NTN and Griffons using inserts. Also, picking up Tattoos for my all-around ski.

GTL · Joined: 23 Oct 2011 Posts: 7 Location: Hemsedal, Norway

Thanks for the review!

I have the Sluffer, and there are no marks on the ski for boot center, do you have any tips for where to put the bindings? R8

I am an advanced skier, + 70 days a year, also do some competitions, racing and freeride here in Norway.

Getting the "Super Turbo" in December, so any tips on those would be great!

Thanks!

Glenn

Gwen · Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Posts: 3037

GTL,
I don't have the skis in front of me since I'm at work. If my memory is right, on my Trusts and Tattoos the mark is on the topsheet near the apple on the left side (tip forward) with the serial number a slash an arrow (boot center mark) a second slash then a "3.5 Ø" (mark for drill diamerter) and reminder to use 3.5 mm drill bits since these are all-wood cores.

Something like:

432523 /↑ /3.5 Ø

I have had good luck on several different pair of Movement Skis (Thunder, Freeheel, Black Rose, Sluff) mounting my tele bindings boot center on the alpine mark. I will do the same on my new Trusts and Tattoos. I will be mounting NTNs using binding freedom inserts.

Gwen · Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Posts: 3037

GTL · Joined: 23 Oct 2011 Posts: 7 Location: Hemsedal, Norway

Gwen,

Thanks a lot!

Glenn

James · Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 6983 Location: Castle Rock, CO

What tips are you looking for on the Super Turbo.

Gwen is spot on with what she said above.

GTL · Joined: 23 Oct 2011 Posts: 7 Location: Hemsedal, Norway

Hi,
The R8 on the skis, boot center, waiting for snow...

Looking for tips on the Super Turbo, or Trust, im gonna use them for hiking in the mountain, will meet different conditions.

I dont mind the weight on the skis.

i like skiing fast, big turns, but since we almost allways ends up in the trees it would be nice if the ski were a bit playfull there as well.

How would you compare them to K2 Sidestash, Line SFB, Katana?

Thank you.

Glenn

James · Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 6983 Location: Castle Rock, CO

I have not skied the first two and only the much older Katana.

Because of the flat tail and less rocker the 186 Trust has a longer surface area and is a little stiffer then a 192 Super Turbo . You would think it would turn slower but that is not the case for me. The Super Turbo is better at bigger turns and for me the Trust is better for shorter turns. The Trust does have a shorter radius and is more narrow so may be that is why.

I am not sure play full is the word I would use. I think of a softer full rockerd skis as play full. These skis are more of a go fast freeride ski. Both of them are quicker turning and more more stable at speed then my 200 Lotus 120 and quicker turning then an older Katana. Given the specs on the newer Katana I would guess these Movement skis will be quicker turning especially on piste.

GTL · Joined: 23 Oct 2011 Posts: 7 Location: Hemsedal, Norway

Thank you James!

Only problem now, seems to be getting in touch with the Norwegian
dealer, tried e mailing them whitout respond...

Thanks again, wish you a nice start for the season!

Glenn

Gwen · Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Posts: 3037

Skied the Trust yesterday for the first time. Groomers only as temps were soaring and most off-piste is still pretty thin. Mounted NTN with new boots. My TX comps need some breaking in as the bellows out of the shop are pretty stiff. The Trust turn extremely well--much better than any fat ski I have been on. Too early for a review as I need my boots broken in and some variable conditions to truly exercise the skis. I will say they seem to have a big sweet spot and there is no reason to fear the stiff straight tail. A local shop mounted them for me, not quite right as they put the inserts 1 cm forward of where I wanted them. Shifted the binding to rear detent putting me at tele boot center 5 mm (pretty negligible) behind the alpine boot center mark. My guess is you have some latitude on the mount for these skis.

Grant · Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:46 pm Post subject:

Sounds like the Trust has a stiffer tail than the Voile Charger, yes? Can anyone compare the two or are they so dissimilar that there is no overlap?
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Gwen · Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Posts: 3037