Where are people mounting the bindings on the BC 125?
The reason I ask is our local shop mounted mine in forward mount position and they don't seem right to me.
Yeah, the balance point mark is pretty far forward.
So here's the deets folks: Rossi only provided a balance point mark and nothing else. So I'll probably just do the center running length thing figured out using a credit card and stick the BOF on it. I don't trust REI to mount this correctly for me. Before I do any drilling, I'm going to see where I mounted my Head Monsters. They're 174 and I like how they ski so the mount should be proportionally similar. Heck I might just get the CRL point from them as a proportion along with my other skis as compared to boot center and be done with it. I"ll prob mount them this weekend if I have time and will post what I come up with.
aaron_wright wrote:
hdiddy wrote:
Jarly's vid is evidence they're do fine on hardpack.
I was there the day of that video, I wouldn't call it hardpack, packed powder would be accurate.
True, but I have no doubt that they will be perform adequately on hardpack. Like I was saying, it doesn't seem like the pattern extrudes at all above the edges. Grip on ice might be real iffy - it usually is anyways, but who climbs on ice? My goal with this ski is actually for general winter touring. Spring touring, I might stick to the trabs. Not sure tho, depends on the BC125's performance on sticky snow. Will the pattern help the ski release more on slushy sticky snow? My guess is yes but that'll need confirmation. _________________ Drive the cuff
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2274 Location: Washoe Valley, Nevada
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 3:25 pm Post subject:
Hopefully someone gets out on these this weekend. No poodling around on resort snow but actual BC type tour. Approach, variety of climbing, traversing, runouts and of course decending BC snow especially low angle stuff where gliding is important. I guess I am interested in these, whats holding me back is that for me at 210 I am not confident that I would like a ski like this in a 175. My primary use would be moderate tours with long runouts at the end to car shuttles. The kind of stuff that with skins there is a lot of slogging at the end but there is enough little uphills to have to put skins on. Anyway, I would use three buckle Crispi's CXP's and would probably puts some Voile SX's on them. So, let's hear it. _________________ Just Say No To Groomed Snow
Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 17708 Location: EL/R -6.12, SL/A -8.15 in NW VT and slightly south of the Poutine Curtain
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject:
Quadzilla wrote:
Hopefully someone gets out on these this weekend. No poodling around on resort snow but actual BC type tour. Approach, variety of climbing, traversing, runouts and of course decending BC snow especially low angle stuff where gliding is important. I guess I am interested in these, whats holding me back is that for me at 210 I am not confident that I would like a ski like this in a 175. My primary use would be moderate tours with long runouts at the end to car shuttles. The kind of stuff that with skins there is a lot of slogging at the end but there is enough little uphills to have to put skins on. Anyway, I would use three buckle Crispi's CXP's and would probably puts some Voile SX's on them. So, let's hear it.
EDIT #2: Just wanted to say, it seems that 175 is the longest they offer. 175 is perfect for me but you'll prob have to lobby Rossi to make longer versions. I think of this as a DH oriented ski, not something to focus touring with. It's odd they didn't make them longer. I don't think it really needs to be stiffer either. Just about right.
EDIT #3: Sorry, the review is on resort skiing. I'll try to tour with them the first chance I get. Wish I had these when I skied Silver peak last year. _________________ Drive the cuff
Joined: 12 Oct 2009 Posts: 112 Location: silverthorne, co
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:50 am Post subject:
i've toured five or more days on them with t3's and voile 3pin cables. i haven't noticed the positrack climbing worse than the xcd base. i wish they were softer. i've skied them in everything from 2ft cold smoke to six inches of blower. no real heavy snow yet. they were not enjoyable in 2ft. even 40 degree 2 ft. even at speed they did not like to stay on top. and i detest skiing in the back seat to try an keep my tips up. i'm sure i do it anyway. i've been tainted by rocker and fat skis i guess. but in boot top snow, even low angle, they are a hoot. this is pretty general. ask more specific questions and i will do my besties to answer them. _________________ ka-kaw.
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2274 Location: Washoe Valley, Nevada
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:15 am Post subject:
CObird. wrote:
i've toured five or more days on them with t3's and voile 3pin cables. i haven't noticed the positrack climbing worse than the xcd base. i wish they were softer. i've skied them in everything from 2ft cold smoke to six inches of blower. no real heavy snow yet. they were not enjoyable in 2ft. even 40 degree 2 ft. even at speed they did not like to stay on top. and i detest skiing in the back seat to try an keep my tips up. i'm sure i do it anyway. i've been tainted by rocker and fat skis i guess. but in boot top snow, even low angle, they are a hoot. this is pretty general. ask more specific questions and i will do my besties to answer them.
Nice report, How much do you weigh? Do you think the bindings are mounted too far foreward? Or just the skis lack tip rocker and shaped more like a resort groomer ski? Or maybe you were skiing bottomless snow with no base thus the skis didn't have anything to rebound off of? _________________ Just Say No To Groomed Snow
Where are people mounting the bindings on the BC 125?
The reason I ask is our local shop mounted mine in forward mount position and they don't seem right to me.
Yeah, the balance point mark is pretty far forward.
Just to reactivate a long-dormant thread, I bought a pair from REI for $200 and took them up to ski Tyndall (after mounting some Dynafits).
Short summary: I certainly didn't feel like the skis held me back! I am 5'11" and weigh about 185, and we were skiing with 40lb packs on everything other than Tyndall itself. I'm still not sure if I got the mount point right, I had to be REALLY aggressive to get them to turn quickly.
Still, I was surprised at how light, stiff, and responsive these skis are. The (huge) camber must have helped because I was doing OK on fairly steep bulletproof snow at our high point. I only got to do a little shuffling around without skins but it was effective for the purpose -- I didn't have to put my skins back on just to hump it a few hundred feet.
The way I have the mount set up, it looks like this:
Or without the boot,
Does this look way too far forward or back to other people? Just curious. I sent away for some Quiver Killers so I could experiment with moving the toe unit a few cm in either direction.
Anyways, thanks for a nice review, it convinced me to pick up a pair, and so far I've been quite pleased with the results. Just curious whether I'm making life harder than it needs to be for myself
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:30 pm Post subject: Rossi bc 125s
Since it is now springtime, I think that I can review my BC 125's. I have used them exclusively as my backcountry ski since November, when the snow first arrived here in Oregon. My previous ski was the Karhu Guide, which I skied for 3 seasons. Here are my two cents worth. As much as I loved my guides, these skis are even better. They have more grip for climbing, more floatation, and they are much better on ice. They don't climb as well in powder, but today, on corn snow, when I took out my inclinometer and measured the slope I was climbing at 20 degrees. That was pretty decent. I also skied a very steep run on my home hill that would have been a challenge on my guides. I have mounted up these skis with the Rotte NTNs and they ski almost as well as my Karhu Storms at the resort. All in all, a thumbs up for these skis. I don't know of a better backcountry no wax ski. That said, I haven't seen the new Fishers and am interested in the new waxless Voile. In the mean time, I have been rocking these skis.
On my Scarpa NTN boots, there is a line on the boot. I mounted it with so the most forward NTN position is at boot center and I have two other adjustment positions to move the binding slightly back. I have used all 3 positions and can't really tell much of a difference. Hope this helps.
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. Got em home and wondering where to mark boot-centre for the binding mount. I'm putting Dynafits on them.